Keepin’ it real on Fathers Day

A Happy Fathers Day to all you dads. While finding the celebratory nature of today’s post takes some application of intelligence, I think it is very fitting for this day.  A mother and father to-be whose family is being split asunder, at the direction of a missionaire being run directly by Miscavige, on the eve of the birth of their first child. The strength of a couple in dire circumstances deciding that to keep it  pent up inside is not the pro-survival choice. I hope you will read this post and express some support and postulates for them, since those of their family are being suppressed out of existence.  Ultimately, I believe the process is completely appropriate for this day; affording us the opportunity to  help one another make our family dynamics whole. Valeska and Chris, you humble me; in a good way. – Marty

This is the first in a series of postings from Valeska and Chris Guider. They left the Sea Org on 23 August 2009.  Valeska is a Grad VA auditor and was a Staff Staff Auditor on the Freewinds. Chris is a Class IX auditor who was formerly Inspector General MAA and Gold MAA. Some of their insights were covered in the earlier article “Ship of Fools.”  There is more to come, specifically concerning gross out ethics in the IAS and other information exposing the off-policy criminality of Dear Leader and his Church of MEST.  They are welcomed to the Independent Scientology community! Mike Rinder


Enough is enough. I simply cannot take the lies and the constant denials from church officials concerning disconnection.

My name is Valeska Guider (nee Paris).  My sister Melissa recently posted a declaration on Scientology-cult website that recounted her experiences with disconnection in our family. I share much of that, but also have other experiences and information that should be made known.

When I was 6 years old my parents divorced. I had been living in Switzerland with my younger sister, (Melissa) and baby brother, Raphael.  My father ended up with full custody and decided to join the Sea Org in England at Saint Hill. We travelled to England in September 1984, my mother came with us to drop us off. We got onto a blue broken down mini bus to travel to berthing.  My mom told us she was going to the canteen to get a coffee. She left and never came back.

We arrived at Stonelands Sea Org berthing. None of us kids spoke English and my father’s was broken at best. We found our way to the dining room that had holes in the ceiling and I got food poisoning and threw up that whole night. My father, brother, sister and I were all put in the same single bed. We missed our mom and were totally homesick. The next day my dad started on the EPF and we were put in the Cadet Org and put on MEST work with the other kids. (This chapter is focused on disconnection, so I am not getting into the sordid details of the Cadet Org here, Melissa’s write up contains some details of this time.)

For the first couple of years we had family time, and would see my dad for 2 hours a day (combined dinner and family time). However in 1986 family time was cancelled and no adults then came to Stonelands for dinner so we barely ever saw our dad after that. He would come home very late at night when we were sleeping and we would get up to go to school when he was sleeping.

After about a year my mother came to Stonelands to visit. She saw how gross the living conditions were and was horrified. She tried to get us back to move with her to the States near Flag. She was told we were future Sea Org members and she was out ethics for trying to get us and that she would be declared an SP if she persisted. She tried several times and was sent to ethics, threatened again with declare and eventually gave up. We visited my mother for the summer holidays and we loved this.  It was a different world: proper food and a room with heating and no leaks. We dreaded going back to England but we loved our Dad.

In 1992 when I was 14, we all went to the US to see my Mom for the summer holidays and I decided to join the Sea Org at Flag. It was great. Flag was much better than Stonelands and I would spend every other Saturday with her.  My mother is an OT VIII Class XII auditor.

But then, on Dec 11th 1995 everything changed.

That was the day my step father, Albert, committed suicide following a series of gross mishandlings from the Church. He was found dead on his bed by my brother who was 6 years old at the time, (son of Albert and my mother). Albert had asked my mom to make his story known so that it would not happen to anyone else. Albert gave her his diary which included details of what he had been through and what he wanted done following his death. My mother was devastated. She went to the local Org in Switzerland and following Albert’s wishes she demanded money back on his behalf and that the Scientologists he had loaned money to pay it back. This is perfectly normal and covered by LRH in the Chaplains Court policy. Instead, the Church sued my mother for black mail and tried to have her put in jail.  This went nowhere as she had done nothing wrong. The Church went all the way to the Swiss Supreme Court and of course they lost. She then went on TV and provided evidence on what had happened. She was now considered an SP and the Scientologists still have not paid the money back. I was at Flag when this happened and OSA Flag used me to try and “handle” my mother. Of course they did not tell me the truth about what had happened and told me my mom was an SP attacking the Church for no reason. I was ordered to disconnect from my mom.  I was 17 at the time and this was pretty hard as I really love her but I did it as this was “the ethical thing to”. OSA Flag also made my mom out to be a villain which is something that the Church does with anyone who steps out of line:  that individual is suddenly “all bad” and always has been.  Just look at what they do now with anyone who speaks out.

When my mom came back from Switzerland in September 1996, I was ordered to the Ship by David Miscavige to get me away from my mom.  I had no forewarning. I was woken 1 hour before my plane was leaving and not able to take any of my personal belongings with me other than a small bag. I was told that I would be at the ship for 2 weeks: I ended up being there for 12 years. I hated it and wanted to go back to Flag. I got in trouble for this and was put in the engine room until I “had a cognition” . I had to report to the Captains office, where Mike Napier yelled at me that I had no choice but to stay on the Ship. I was miserable. For the first 6 months I was not allowed to step off the Ship in case my mom was on one of the Islands to get me! I was also not allowed to take holidays off the Ship. I missed my family terribly and was informed by the Security Chf International that my only choice was to get my family in good standing to come and visit me on the Ship.

In 1997 my sister came to the Ship for her honeymoon. The day before she left I was 1/2 hour late back on post — I was pulled up to Mike Napier’s office, yelled at, removed from post and put on the decks for 6 months and restricted to the Ship.

For the first 8 years I was not allowed off the Ship without an escort in case my mom was on one of the islands. I finally got this changed in 2004 by talking to the Security Chief.

In 2002 my sister was declared for connecting with my mom. I was pulled into HCO and shown her SP declare and ordered to disconnect from her. I foolishly did as not disconnecting was not an option and was “suppressive”.

In 2007 a man whose marriage had been on the rocks for at least 7 years had an interest in me and was working on getting me interested in him. 8 months later I did and we had comm cycles about being together in the future. He was in progress of getting a divorce. Our actions were incorrect and resulted in me being assigned to the Engine Room. I saw the guy a few times and we talked when we were not supposed to, though we never touched or did anything physical. I was accused by Sue Price ( CO CMO) and Lurie Belotti (RTC Rep) of “breaking up the marriage” even though he had trouble for 7 years before he even met me and I was the 2nd woman he had created something with. 

At this point the Basics had been released and we were getting no sleep until we made our booksales quota. I was a Staff Staff Auditor, and me and every other crew member was on booksales, often through the entire nite!

One night Lurie Belotti asked me if I was the reason that this guy had moved out of his room into a dorm. I had no idea what she was going on about and just said “yes” as I was not interested in talking to her. She sent me to the Engine Room for 48 hours straight! This is after weeks of an average of 3 hours sleep a night trying to meet insane booksales quotas. At about 4am I just blacked out against a machine and was found 4 1/2 hours later by an engineer who shook me till I came to. I was then put back to work for another day and night without sleep and then back on post the day after that. And I was expected to audit.

This guy and I spoke again and I got taken off post and put in the Engine Room full time. I was put in this small room by myself with a camera monitoring my movements. A security guard escorted me anywhere I went, I had to eat in the engine room and was not allowed to eat in the control room because it was air conditioned. I was not allowed to work with anyone so I was alone at all times. All as ordered by Sue Price and Lurie Belotti, those soulless husks of humanity. I was miserable and wanted out. I started going in session on a Sec check with an auditor who was getting no sleep and would dope off in the session. I was in the engine room for almost 3 months full time.  I hated it and just wanted to get off the Ship, I was of course not allowed to call my family at all or talk to anyone. Towards the end I started making up overts to just get out of there. One day in early December I wore a ring on my finger and left it there to try and simulate a rockslam as I thought that would get me out of there faster.

In December 2007 I called my brother using another staff members’ cruise card which you need to call off the Ship.  Mine had been deactivated. I spoke to him for 1/2 an hour. I told him to call me back and it was discovered I had called him. I was yelled at by the Security Chief and the then Dir I&R and told I was suppressive and 1.1, this went on and on. I then had to write down everything I had told my brother. I was assigned to the RPF and informed if I did not go I would be declared.

I was supposed to be sent to Europe to do the RPF but refused. I was told I had no choice and they were going to declare me an SP. I didn’t care, I had enough. I wanted out right away and it was not happening so when I went in session I lied and said that I was suicidal, because I had seen enough people being kicked out for this. The same night Sue Price pulled me into the dining room and told me I looked terrible, she then said she knew I was lying about the suicide and proceeded to try and introvert me. Eventually she said she would send me to Australia if she could and I was happy about that. I was told the next day that I would be going to Australia and was just relieved to get off the Ship. I decided I would NEVER go back.

I left on Dec 25th which was one of the greatest reliefs I have ever experienced. I arrived to Australia and believe it or not I loved the RPF.  Despite all the restrictions, no pay from the Ship for 6 months and no PC folder till after I was done with all the auditing — it was heaven compared to what I had experienced the last months on the Ship. I completed the RPF in Nov 2008. I was posted in Australia and Sue Price and Lurie Belotti did not like this.  After booting me off the Freewinds and not paying me, now they demanded a replacement! They said they were going to send me to England, then to LA, and then threatened to have me escorted back to the Ship and be put in the Engine Room until there was a “replacement”.  CLO ANZO gave the Freewinds 3 staff but then that was not good enough. “Auditor’s don’t grow on trees” they said and demanded a Clear Grad V Auditor.

By this time I had a relationship with my current husband (Chris Guider who I had met on the RPF — he too had been sent to the ANZO RPF when he was considered a “security risk” ).  There was NO way I was going to go back to the Ship or be trafficked to where they wanted. A lot happened in this period which I won’t cover here. I married Chris — but apparently was supposed to have “OK” from Sue Price first!  Like she has any say in who I marry and when. This was a big flap and I was now in trouble yet again and was supposed to be sent back to the RPF.  We had had had enough and said we were leaving.  We finally routed out in late Aug 2009. We were in good standing and were given money “because I was going to have a baby” (I attribute this treatment to what has been happening on the internet and the fact that I know a lot of information about the Freewinds and the IAS, and Chris knows a lot about DM, Int and Gold).

I had not yet really fully seen the light, and I wanted to handle my sister and mom’s declare. So I got in communication with them.  We were then called by Marion Pouw who informed me I was violating Church policy by being in comm with my family.  My brother also got in comm with my mom and sister and OSA ordered him to disconnect. I refused to disconnect from my sister and mother so now my father and brother have both disconnected from me, my husband and my baby boy who will be born in the next 3 -4 weeks, though my dad expresses extreme upset about having to do this.

I have written comms from my dad. 

I also have written comms from Marion Pouw, who works directly for David Miscavige trying to clean up the messes he has created with lies.  In spite of whatever Tommy Davis says, or how the church tries to spin it, she clearly states that disconnection is the on policy thing to do.

I am writing this as I am sick of the blatant lies that the Church is telling the media with no shame or remorse.

Valeska Guider

155 responses to “Keepin’ it real on Fathers Day

  1. And to Valeska and Chris, I’m sorry if I’ve posted this in the wrong thread. You both look fantastic and I love that you have a baby on the way!
    May music and love surround you both. T

  2. Blessings to you, Valeska & Chris. You are among so many friends out here where the air and the intentions are clean.


  3. This story is so awful I almost can’t bear to read it. No one, but particularly a child, should never be subjected to such cruelty and deprivation. I read these stories about young people being “recruited” into the SO (like if both parents are in the “church” where the hell are they going to go if they say no?) and never having a chance to come up for air and clear (no pun intended) their minds. It is a wonder that any of them ever find the mental and emotional where-with-all to even think of getting out. Valeska – if you haven’t read her story already, you might google Maureen Bolstad (aka Twin A). Your story reminds me a lot of what she reports in terms of getting into the Sea Org as a kid and what she had to go through to get finally away from the Int. Base.

  4. Congratulations to the two of you for taking charge of your own destiny by leaving. As others have pointed out, what you’ve experienced is truly slavery, and it is amazing that it has continued this long. I am personally so thankful for each one who leaves, speaks out, and especially for those who provide a forum like this one. Daily, I read the relevant sites looking for word of my loved one still on the Freewinds after many years. What I see frightens me, but at the same time gives hope that the whole thing will collapse under the weight of evil and corruption, and that we will all see those we love emerge from under the rubble. Thank God, they have more and more supporters on the outside these days.
    Bringing your first baby into the world is like having all your birthdays and holidays rolled into one-really. All the best to the three of you.

  5. Valeska and Chris
    Very well done on making it out. I read your story with much sadness and anger. The noble heart of the Sea Org Member thus betrayed thus makes me want to spit venom. Not necessarily a ‘theta’ response but an honest one :)
    Thank you so much for telling your tale. Each personal story told gives me a renewed purpose and deeper understanding of why it isn’t good enough for me to simply walk away from the church. This is why I continue to fight for every being still trapped by the evil that has turned LRH’s dream of paradise into the nightmare of a perfect theta trap.
    We will get our families out. We will get our friends out. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
    We live in eternity and we come back, a minor detail that DM overlooked when he began this game.
    Going to stop rambling now before Marty accuses me of sounding like a beer commercial again :D

  6. Valeska & Chris, congratulations on the forthcoming birth of your child!!

    As the father of 3, it is my belief that it is the most important thing I have done in my life. And the most rewarding. (Not that it is easy!!)

    I am excited for you, for the adventure that awaits you!

    Flourish and prosper in the face of whatever seems to get in the way…

    (and thanks for standing up and telling your stories)

  7. Dear Valeska and Chris,

    Really happy to have you hear in Florida. Thank you for keeping your integrity in and your dedication to LRH!

    Can’t wait to see the new member of your family!

  8. Dear Valeska & Chris,
    Congratulations for getting out! Both of you. All my best wishes to your new family.
    From my own experience I can only say, I know that everything you wrote is exactly true.

  9. Valeska and Chris,

    Ah, today is Father’s Day and I read your story, so full of hurt and abuse. I sit next to my daughter, shoulder to shoulder; feeling her near fills me with joy. She will soon leave for college and my heart aches. My son comes in, fifteen years old, already three inches taller than me. He leans over and hugs me. His arms are growing strong–wiry and long. He smiles and I smile back, knowing how full life can be.

    When I was young, my parents were poor and didnt’ have much time for us. I don’t remember every being told, “I love you,” by either one. My childhood was filled with emptiness. But, now I understand.

    I had kids, and knew what love was. All the infatuations became meaningless. I was suddenly part of something much grander than myself.

    Being a parent is an honor. And that you should choose to bring children into this world will fill your life in ways unexpected. You never know how much you can love another human being until you have children.

    Romance may give your heart wings, but the love of your child allows you to soar into the future.

    A father cannot exist without a mother to bear the child. So, on this Father’s Day, I tell you that the past is only as relevant as you both use it to make the present and future better. The sadness of your story will only make the joy of your future that much sweeter. The bonds that were frayed in your childhood will only give reason to strengthen the bonds in adulthood.

    I raise my glass and offer a toast, “To those who would nurture and protect your children, I give my praise. Salute.”

    Much love,


    • That is so beautiful Michael, and so true.

      I know a truly good writer when I read their words and say, “Yeah, whew… that person feels the same way as me, and it has saved me grappling with words to describe it…and oh the comfort of knowing your feelings are shared.

      Being a parent is the most intense thing I have ever experienced, and it is that way for a reason of course.

      I don’t have to type it, you said it perfectly;

      “Romance may give your heart wings, but the love of your child allows you to soar into the future.”

      • Well said, Victoria, I was going to comment the same on Michael’s perceptions and sentiments, and aesthetic skill in expressing them! Michael DITTO all of the above about your comments!

    • Michael, this is very beautiful and very theta. Thanks. :)

    • That was so touching and heartfelt and TRUE! Beautiful.

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  11. Valeska and Chris,

    Hell is behind you now. Before you lies a future and a hope. Congratulations on choosing to leave the suppression and to choose LIFE in all its dimensions. I pray that the birth of your child will give you joy beyond expectation, and the strength to persevere when times aren’t easy.

    I’ll be honest. I’ve been reading every day for 2 and a half years the stories of abuse by the Scientology organisations. Sometimes, in the last year or so, I’ve searched my heart asking whether I’ve become so used to the horror that it no longer touches me. But every now and again, I’m still shocked and saddened and angered.

    Valeska, your story made me madder than I’ve felt for a long time. I’ve been asking God what Miscavige is. Is he still human? Was he ever? Did he ever have a spirit? Was he made in the image of God like everyone else, or did he emanate from some evil place?

    I’m left with the sense that David Miscavige has made so many choices for evil that his spirit is irrevocably tainted, scarred, aberrant, sick, no longer a human spirit.

    I just hope you know that YOU did NOT deserve to be treated the way you were treated – at Stonelands, at FLAG, on the Freewinds or in the RPF. You were not the problem, Valeska.

    I hope the birth of your child, and speaking out as you have, marks another major turning point in your life, where the path gets lighter and happier, more hopeful and beautiful.

    If you haven’t already spoken with Nick Xenophon and wish to, email him at You’ll find him and his senior adviser very understanding and supportive of you as a person.

    I wish you, Valeska, Chris and your baby every good thing.

    • Concerned Citizen


      You said:

      “I’ll be honest. I’ve been reading every day for 2 and a half years the stories of abuse by the Scientology organizations. Sometimes, in the last year or so, I’ve searched my heart asking whether I’ve become so used to the horror that it no longer touches me. But every now and again, I’m still shocked and saddened and angered”

      I understand this conclusion. I have no sympathy for this man, but I have a deep hope that redemption is always possible even for him and if he were to change, it would only benefit everyone. In the Bible, repentance is the key to that salvation.

      I agree with that, I have done evil in my time- never close to the scope of Dave, but I did.
      I have however always known that I hoped for the chance to change and I did change, to me both the hope at first and then the fact that I did change ( I have ways to go mind you) are a confirmation that basic goodness is in fact the truth, goodness always wins in the end.
      To me that is one of the things that makes life worth living.

      • CC, I understand what you’re saying. I guess I’m struggling to know whether DM has so seared his conscience that he’s committed the unforgivable sin. I take a very strong view of grace – that’s why this is a struggle for me.

      • Concerned Citizen

        You said:
        “I take a very strong view of grace – that’s why this is a struggle for me”

        Thank you Heather, from the bottom of my heart for that, I have the utmost respect for this rare quality.

  12. Valeska and Chris,

    I am so glad you are out of that environment. Let the healing begin! Too bad you still have some disconnection on your family lines. This will change. It seems that we are having management from the outside! DM changes when the noise gets too loud outside. So this big lie shown over and over will be changed. Just to protect his butt but nothing more!

  13. I hope you are reconnected with your dad soon. I am really grateful to be a dad, it really is the greatest thing ever although it is not easy. Invalidating family ties that usually go back the track will be about as successful as Miss Cabbage rejecting the idea of “past life Clear”. So, time is certainly on your side.

    May I add that this painful experience may help you help others in your future auditing efforts since this engram will have to be audited out of the Church by those who have experience with it.

  14. Valeska and Chris,

    Big hugs to you both! What happened to you was criminal and sadistic. These types of abuses need to be exposed. Thank you so much for sharing and continuing to share the truth.

    I’m so happy to hear your family is being put back together, piece by piece.


  15. Such a beautiful family the two of you, soon to be even more so. How exciting.

    Uumm, fresh baby, there isn’t anything more wonderful. Please do post pictures!

  16. becomingAware

    Valeska and Chris – Welcome to the outside world and happy Father’s and Mother’s day.
    Chris – you and I know each other from when you were in RTC. I am very pleased you are out and looking forward to some stories when the time is right for you.
    My best to the three of you.

  17. Veleska and Chris! Welcome to our family of Independents. Thank you for your courage to speak out and take a stand against this total insanity. In a certain way, each one of us went through our own hell but are back on our feet standing tall and able to speak out about it. Hiro and I congratulate you on your new family member and hope that we can all meet up sometime soon. With great affinity to you both!
    Hiro and Shannon

  18. Valeska and Chris;

    Had a father’s day dinner and celebrated my granddaughters 15th birthday today in a Clearwater restaurant.

    There was much laughter and free flowing theta around the table where my son, daughter and their three kids participated in a family gathering that very few SO members get to attend…so, so sad.

    You two are out of the nightmare…go raise your family your way…be free…laugh and flow theta
    flourish and prosper…

    Know this for sure…there will be a day DM & his slave masters will never forget….it’s coming sooner than later.

    The INDEPENDENT movement is growing both overtly and covertly. You can feel the charge blowing all over the world and if you really take a look you will see Dear Leader getting smaller and more solid with each new INDEPENDENT announcement.

    Welcome to a sane and noble group Valeska and Chris.

  19. Valeska,

    What a story! The depth of cruelty this “church” (a group that is supposed to be representing LRH) has sunk to is mind boggling.

    This reads like one of those fairy tales with an evil stepmother (Snow White?), except that “evil stepmother” is the normal and expected valence of all high-level SO members in DM’s regime.

    In this regime you don’t even own your own body, and you certainly don’t own your own life. You are truly a fully-owned slave.

    Congratulations, Valeska and Chris, on de-PTS’ing yourselves and getting out of that hell-hole. True Scientology is out here, as I’m sure you know now. True Scientology is always theta, it always helps a being expand across his or her dynamics, and it never makes you feel bad or cuts your theta comm lines.

    So welcome to this wonderful group where you have lots of friends. You have my postulates for a wonderful, healthy family and for reconnection with your father and brother. I bet they will see the light, because in the end theta always wins.

  20. I have no words for the sadness and anger I’m feeling after reading your story.
    I feel so much love for the two of you right now. May you know nothing but happiness in your new life as an independent Scientologist.

  21. Kathy Braceland

    You regained your freedom despite all odds…and those were some big odds. Your story is heart-wrenching but you pulled through it in a blaze of glory. Huge, HUGE kudo’s and lots of love to you!

  22. Your story is very compelling but is hampered by the dates. For instance you state you were sent to the ship by DM in 2006 and stayed there for 12 years. (para 10) You completed the RPR in Nov 2009 yet you routed out in Aug 2009. (para 20 and 21)

    It makes your story less plausible due to the time out points, but that is easily correctable! Just review and correct the dates.

    Thank you

  23. Lisa Hamilton

    Valeska, I do not know you, but I know Chris. I am saddened to hear your story. It is so theta that you are having a baby! If I can do anything to help, just let me know. I know that Chris is a strong terminal and you guys will handle this situation. Lisa

  24. Lisa Hamilton

    Hello Chris and Valeska, Chris, we do know each other and I know you will stay strong and take care of this, have a healthy baby (congratulations) and flourish and prosper. Let me know if you need anything from me. Lisa

  25. Valeska and Chris,
    A very very huge big ole theta hug to you both and congratulations on your coming baby! What a fantastic and wonderful way to out-create all the BS you’ve dealt with!
    I think you’ll both redefine JOY in the very near future. I’m just sooooo happy for you both!

  26. Valeska,

    Thanks for your detailed description of the inside of the Mascavage created trap.

    To have survived that insanity since the age of six is a tribute to you as theta.

    I wish you a new game full of love and free theta for you your husband and child.

  27. Not much else I can add that hasn’t been said already other than to wish you both the best in your new life!

  28. Concerned Citizen

    Valeska, first of all congratulations on your baby’s impending arrival. May all the joys of motherhood be yours in plenitude.

    Then congratulations on staying in one piece. Believe it or not I know something of what you speak, it takes tremendous fortitude to survive that kind of isolation and abuse. I admire you for surviving that madness and still knowing what is what and who you are, not everyone can do that, many who have gone through less grueling experiences have thrown in the towel and abandon any spiritual path. And I know, believe me I know exactly what you went through.

    But I prefer to look at things in terms of what I gained and not what I lost, or in terms of what I learned.

    I think you probably do that too and so I’m sure you are one very strong Thetan. That boy you are getting is so lucky to have that kind of strength to learn from.

    Happy Father’s day to Chris and thanks for speaking out.

  29. Concerned Citizen

    By the way, I can’t help but notice how many people resort to pretending suicidal ideation to break free. When that is your last resort, it is a very desperate situation.

  30. Valeska and Chris

    Glad to see you are out of hell and living in the real world again. What you’ve both been through just shouldn’t happen in “civilized” countries.

    Chris – happy Dad’s day. You’re looking much better than that photo of you in the Sydeny Morning Herald when you first hit Oz on your way to the ANZO RPF. I still remember your first nights in my Acad in Sydney. If you’re ever back here, look me up, mate.

  31. Gulag: Definition from:

    gu·lag also Gu·lag (gläg)
    1. A network of forced labor camps in the former Soviet Union.
    2. A forced labor camp or prison, especially for political dissidents.
    3. A place or situation of great suffering and hardship, likened to the atmosphere in a prison system or a forced labor camp.

    Every time I read a story like this, I think of the Gulags. Except in this case there are no guns enforcing confinement, only mental guns. But all else is the same.

    I salute you so much on your courage, your strength to escape The Co$ gulag, and emerge as a decent human being. There will only be love, happiness and true beauty in your life from now on. A happy marriage, and a new baby – enjoy!! And love to you and your family. :)

  32. Wow, this story makes my nightmares look like a Sunday trip to Wal-Mart. Hello to you and Chris. Chris knows who I am from when he was in RTC. Congrats on your new and flourishing lives. You certainly deserve the best the world has to offer. I am totally incredulous at how DM focused on you, one staff member, to suppress you so completely. It’s like he has his thumb on everyone’s lives in the SO just so he can do so. I know your statements are fact. It truly escapes me how Interpol and the FBI and other law enforcement agencies allow this obvious breach of law to go unfettered. Certainly there is a huge amount of evidence to allow warrants and other affirmative action. Too many foolish people are still aiding DM. When the “Old Man” was around, if people wanted to leave, they left. DM is truly nuts/evil.

  33. Mr. B : I’ve never heard Josh Groban without a tear welling up.

    And this youtube rendition is so very poignant to what we are all facing in the microcosm that is dm and his prison which so clearly mimics the macrocosm of life now on planet earth.

    Buddhist say that we are clearly “in a dark age” — but thanks to artists, a growing group of determined spiritual leaders of all faiths and those who support them … I remain confident and

    Will not give up.


  34. Hi Valeska & Chris,
    Thanks for posting your story. You filled in a few gaps for those of us who’ve been wondering what happened to you and Chris.

    Many of the ANZO Exes remember Chris fondly and I, for one, am VERY happy to hear that you’re both free of them at last.

    Enjoy that freedom and the wonderful future stretching out before you.


  35. Dear Valeska,
    It is so hard to read your story – I was on the Ship in 06 listening to events (during MV) about the Human Rights PSAs while you were below me in the engine room trapped and being tortured! That was the MV I gave that cult 150K for the IAS campaigns that were supposed to help mankind! Ugh…
    On the very bright side, you are out, you are free and loved …and expecting the greatest gift of all– your child!
    I send you and your Chris my love and support – please let me know if there is anything I can do for you!
    Mary Jo

  36. Wow, Chris Guider. He was pretty much one of the first COB enforcers as IG MAA before it was a violent activity. Tons of ethics presence and a pretty sane person. Former professional rugby player who is pretty much as tough as nails. I remember at the base him getting stitches with no anesthesia.

    Gary Conley I believe was the very first IG MAA but I guess that made him Aznaran’s enforcer.

    Anyways, I am glad Chris made it out. I know he had a big thing on kids and he put up with a lot of shit and remained dedicated and tough.

    Good for you guys and I wish you well.


  37. The church has no and had never any authority over you all.

    You gave a huge part or all of your selfdeterminism away all of you.


    • Anything you depend upon you become the effect of. That happens in every arena in this universe. It is not only in Scientology. Blame about it only frustrates people who confuse dependency with trust.

      • True, but you have various layers of trust and or dependency.

        One thing Scientologists and Anons have in common they rarely trust goverments although the Anon stance is more of a cynical one. Like the world is as it is and their is no point dressing it up to look nice. The optimism is to be found in the act of the Individual wich occasionally can be suprising and rising above the average.

        Always be vigilant

  38. Suggested cram to Mike Napier, Sue Price, and Lurie Belotti.

    An open letter to all clears.

    Especially word clear this section:

    “As a Clear, you are welcomed and honoured. Don’t do anything that will wear out your welcome
    or bring dishonour on yourself or upon other Clears.”

    • I won’t bother sending the cram to DM as that would violate DMOB order #1. Entitled David Miscavige is not here on the same terms as anyone else.

      • theoracle.21-June 2010.Well said ! re DM’s terms here They aren’t Scientology Terms thats for sure

  39. Valeska,

    How insane can it get and people who are trying to do good get caught up in it and keep trying.
    Thank you for trying and it is good you got out. The Freewinds of all places. How can can anyone get case gain on that ship from Hell?
    Thank you for sharing your experiences with us.

  40. Congratulations on getting out of the TRAP.

    Congratulations on the imminent birth of your child . This is a truly wonderful thing.

    I gave birth to Jack a few months after I comped OTVII and just before my husband and I LEFT the Church ( in 2008 – after 23 yrs in).

    Our son’s joy at experiencing the world anew has given my husband and I so much to value about life – stuff that is taken away from you as a Scientologist – his arrival really helped the whole “leaving” experience – so I am hoping that all goes well with the birth and that you both enjoy this wonderful journey into parenthood – as you truly deserve it.

    The stories of human rights abuses in the SO were what made me finally decide to leave. Your story is so horrendous – I am so sorry for all that you have been through.

    Since you were “shipped off” to Australia and as Chris is an Aussie I am hoping that you will take Heather G’s advice and send this very important story to Senator Xenophon – it would really make a huge difference – and right now is the perfect time to do it.

    Good luck to you both – you have plenty of supporters in OZ if you decide to return here.

  41. one of those who see

    Hi Valeska And Chris, I am so happy that you have each other and are expecting a child. LRH speaks of making it go right. And you really have! – in spite of everything.

    You can now have a family the way it should be.

    Thank you for telling your heart wrenching story. Hugs, hugs, hugs to you and your little one on the way.

    Why do I post anonymously?…Fear of disconnection. I have family on staff. Enforced disconnection of a parent and a child is just short of murder, in my opinion.

  42. Vicki,
    *So* great you left and had your new baby without the insanity C of S has become. Great job.
    Valeska: Your story is SO amazing, each part of it.
    This one line seems so very true for many of us, in one form or another, who spent years within that group:
    ” I was told that I would be at the ship for 2 weeks: I ended up being there for 12 years.”

    Amazing! Thank goodness you are free, and sharing your story with all. You are helping far more people than you can imagine by doing so.
    My best to you and all, Tory/Magoo

  43. Dear Valeska,

    A very moving post. I was horrified in reading the suppression and human rights violations you personally experienced. I am disgusted and repulsed by the behavior of the so-called “elite” SO members you detailed. Your treatment as a child was particularly heartbreaking. Very hard to face head on, just reading. My compassion is yours but mostly, my admiration for your strength and fortitude and the lovely creation of your new life with a loving husband and child on the way! Beautiful.

    Thank you for taking the time to expose the criminals that are not only breaking the law, but doing so while pretending to be such honorable souls dedicated to helping others and saving the planet.


  45. Wow, what a story. I totally believe you & believed all along the stories I’ve heard. Even if only 1/10th of what you guys are all saying was true I would find it outrageous! That’s what lead me to resigned. Sadly I’m sure that nearly 100% is true. I’m so glad you guys are now free. Welcome to the Independent field. Looking forward to meet you :-)

  46. Valeska, Thank you so much for telling your story, and congratulations to both you and Chris with your newfound freedom and to your new baby!

    Chris, it’s so good to see that you left all of that insanity behind. Welcome to life outside of the Int Base prison camp and the RPF! You and I had the chance to work together on Dept 3 and Qual lines for a long time. I’ve written about a lot of the things we were involved in on those lines, and some time when you get the chance, it would be great to hear your story and get your input along those lines at Int. I’ve wondered many times how you were doing and if you were still in the SO. Anyway, I’m sure you’ll have your hands full as a new father! Conrats my man!

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  48. Thank you for taking your heartbreaking & important story to the media. This deal with being forced to sign away one’s reality in order to be set free is common and has gone on for years. I am so glad you are at the forefront in exposing this, adding to the many proofs that the Church of Scientology is a criminal organization, using extortion to try and silence it’s disaffected departing staff members. Keeping people’s passports is another common extortive tactic the church employs. Lets hope Senator Xenophon investigates this madness to the fullest. Best wishes to you and your family.

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