Italian Liberation

  They say everything is bigger in Texas.  I think they meant in Italy.  Check out below what’s happening there. If you read Italian you can learn more at: http://indipendologo.wordpress.com/

With this letter of resignation myself Giovanni Servalli, my wife Giovanna Ongaro and our son Luca are hereby announcing our leaving the current Church of Scientology because we have observed for a long time, it has not been working as planned by Ron.

We applied “Look don’t Listen” and we arrived to the conclusion that the head of the Church David Miscavige is a Suppressive Person.

We witnessed ethic abuses.

When you are honest they shoot you with the accusations of being enturbulative and where you lie they back-you up.

We observe False statistics being publicized at Events.

There is no true expansion and the Orgs and Missions are empty.

We observed people donating large sum of money, and experiencing very heavy personal financial difficulties, without exchange to Ideal Org, IAS, The Basics. But what does DM thinks? That if you build gigantic palaces people will just come in?? It is not what LRH says, what he says is:

When buildings get important to us, for God’s sake, some of you born revolutionists, will you please blow up central headquarters.”

The Genus of Dianetics and Scientology 

My wife Giovanna during our experience at Flag, was arbitrarily audited on Dianetics while being a OT III this to the point she got so devastated and keyed-in that she did not know who she was anymore.

We wanted to describe other Out Tech that we experienced but Luis Garcia in his letter described it all very well so we refer you to his writings and will not talk about those subjects.

It is for all those reasons we decided to leave the church, but not Scientology, since we joined the group of the Independents and within this group we experienced that when the Tech is applied standardly it works! In fact me and my husband Giovanni just attested OT4 with great wins.

All this thanks to our Auditor Ignazio that gave us our life back, and this when we thought that our life was over.

If somebody wants to communicate with us our mail is:

giolibero.it2008@libero.it

GIOVANNA, GIOVANNI E LUCA

 

 

My name is Armando Comincini.  I’ve been in Scientology more than 20 years. I’m Clear and I studied all the Administrative and Technical Courses available at Brescia Org.

I’m a Class 4  and for years have been a memebr of the OT Committee.

I have been at Flag several times.

For a few years I have decided to not “participate” to the puzzling games of the Golden Age, the Basics, and the Ideal Orgs.

As an Auditor I believe that there is only one game that is worthy to play as an Org, and that is to create Auditors, Clears and OTs. For this reason I refused to give my support to the Org’s Real Estate Business.

I came into Scientology when the Org in Italy had been shut down due to the various legal cases arising in mid 1980’s, so I received my auditing and I had to study with a lot of enthusiasm in the “strangest” place in which an HGC or a Course Room for the Academy could be set up. I experienced incredible gains, even if I was doing my sessions in the back of a restaurant, and I never felt the urge of having an Org with gold pillars, or sofas covered with “Human” skin; as Ron tells us only results will fill an Org and not the way it is furnished, and I can testify to it being the truth.

I have been working for many years with Claudio and Renata Lugli, and I experienced indirectly all the recent events they had to go through, and I shared with them all their disagreements and ARC Breaks for all the attempted “handlings” and pressures that they had to bear in the last year from our “church”.

That attitude and the information that I studied started to bring light of the day in relation to the behavior of the church management. It definitely convinced me that it was not enough just to be “disaffected”, so I decided to publicly announce my TOTAL DISAGREEMENT with the current church management.

My admiration and respect for Ron and for his work are the same as always, and all that will always be my guidance for life.

To him, and all the people that follow Scientology without compromise goes my deepest ARC.

Armando Comincini

 

My name is Paolo Grazioli, my history in Scientology is relatively short but very rich and intense.

 I came to know Scientology in 2002 thanks to my wife, an old time Scientologist and her son.

 During my path I have gotten huge wins and I had opportunities to review and handle areas of my life that weren’t fully ok.

 Even through all the wins, there was something wrong, controversial sensations, inconsistencies between what I was studying and what I was seeing. However, I wasn’t sure  what was it.

 They were perceptions that, unfortunately, I always invalidated thinking that I would have to understood in the future.  However, this wasn’t happening.

 One day, casually, I discover the website of Independents Italy “L’Indipendologo” and from that point on, it has been a continuous cognition, suddenly everything got cleared up and I realized what was that sensation.

 I realized why on the occasion of the Basics Release, when I was at Flag, after the huge event everybody stood up for the applause while I remained seated.

 I realized why even if I did not read the data of Ron about Ideal Orgs, the importance given to that cycle was completely unreal etc ….

I consider that for me it has come the time to declare officially and publicly my Independence and with that not be part any more of the current Official Church of Scientology.

I will nevertheless continue my spiritual road in an independent way following what Ron left us, that Precious and Pure Source of data capable of saving an entire Universe.

 Moreover, I must say that I recently met some people already Independents and I experienced a truly Big Family sensation and this is true for me.

Kindly

Paolo Grazioli

80 responses to “Italian Liberation

  1. Hello.

    Welcome.

    We are here to help you.

    Roberto

  2. What wonderful news from the beautiful country of Italy!

    Welcome to you all. May your paths be covered in rose petals and bathed in sunlight.

    Centurion

  3. So glad you posted this in English. I was looking at the Italian Blog link you have and could tell there was tremendous momentum towards the Independent field. And their Blog has great photos and art as well. But I obviously didnt understand the language. Now I can see that their theme is consistent on the reality to break free as the best option. Only a matter of time before there is a total change in reality in the world of scientology. Italy definitely is running with the ball. No anger, no threats or attacks. Just stating the facts and heading for the door. Free again. By the thousands. Its starting to steamroller. WOW.

  4. Welcome to the group of hope. Thank you for your fantastic declarations.

  5. “I realized why on the occasion of the Basics Release, when I was at Flag, after the huge event everybody stood up for the applause while I remained seated.”

  6. one of those who see

    Bravo!! Bravo!! and Grazie!! to our wonderful, uptone, brave, honest, high confront, high integrity Italian Friends.

  7. One by one people leave the church of DM and shortly thereafter they become happy and shortly after that they feel the love and care that is sooooo missing at the C of $ lead by DM.

    Epiphanies are occurring daily as people apply LOOK DON’t LISTEN!!

    Bravo to all that leave the cult you should be commended.

    It’s refreshing, isn’t it? (to leave the suprressive group that is)

  8. One thing everyone can learn from the Italians is that they don’t put up with any bullshit – period!!!! I know – I am one. Keep up the good work paisans and keep setting a great example of how to never back down, and flourish and prosper.

  9. Oh Dwarf, five in one day! Take that!! Think of their sphere of influence and when it’s five all at once, oh man, the word will spread like wildfire……..and more will leave.

    To get any better it’d have to be an entire mission or org. That day might not be too far off. Watcha gonna do then, when they hand the keys back to you and head for the local restaurant (like Armando said) to practice/apply real Scn?

  10. DM’s alleged response:

    “WTF!!%!$?!#@$S%#$#$!@%!$?!#@$GRAKS%#$#$!@%!$?!#@$S%#$#$!@%!$?!#@$S%#$#$!X@%!$?!#@$S%#$#$!@X%!BLAH$?!#@$S%#$#$MFS!@%!$?!#@$S%#$#$!@%!$?!#@$S%#$#$!@%!$?!#@$S%#$#$X!@%!$?!#@$S%#SH$#$!@%!$?!#@$S%#$#$!@%ERS$#%@AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  11. A very big welcome to the Italian Independents – Giovanni, Giovanna, Luca, Armando & Paolo to move on higher with us!

  12. Ciao Fratelli, ciao dalla Grecia! Vi saluto, io Theodoro e vi ringracio per l’ Indipendenza.

    Hi my Brothers, hi from Greece! I, Theo, salute you and I congratulate you for your Independence.

  13. Great job my Italian brothers and sisters!!

  14. Viva Italy! Gary and crew, Ignazio, and the FIVE featured, oh man this is so good to hear. You’re helping the US and Italy at the same time, which I’m sure you know.

  15. la versione italiana

    They are fantastic people!!
    What a treasure we gained by having them!!

    REQUEST:

    “Does anybody know anything about a couple by the name of Barry & Carol? They used to make the tour of orgs for Scientology back around 1982 or so,
    and put on a show playing the keyboard and singing.
    I have a tape of some of their beautiful music and would like more if I knew how to contact them.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Robert”

    Italy Clear!!! by the IND… Yuppie!!

    Silvia Kusada

  16. la versione italiana

    The Italian Indipendents 2011

  17. Mama mia! Bombastico grande!

    I once heard a tale about DM being in Italy and saying something to this effect at an event that “Italy booms so much because Italians are more uptone than people in other countries”.

    I guess he’s not all bad then :) – Yes, rotten to the core, but not 100% … maybe 97.5% :)

  18. Ah, Italy, oh Italy. A beautiful land full of beautiful people! I know, having lived there for four years as a kid. Welcome, welcome, welcome. You guys have done it again! Us Operatin’ Texans had better get to work!
    Love, Caterina von Ach

  19. To: Giovanni Servalli, your wife Giovanna Ongaro and your son Luca…
    CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL 3 OF YOU!!!

    Welcome to your new
    life :) You’ll find it just gets better and better and better.

    FACT: Italians ROCK–and more are coming out, daily :)
    My very best :)
    Tory/Magoo (escaped out in July of 2000)

  20. Wow. This is great news! More wonderful Italians. Welcome to the Scientology that you signed up for — standard tech, big wins. Oh what a beautiful day….

  21. Wow you Italians are a great bunch of beings!!!!! In fact you are by far some of the kindest, most decent, most appreciative, most respective people I have ever met. Welcome and if I can be of any assistance let me know.

  22. Armando and Paulo also? Holllllllllllllllly CATFISH… Kingfish!!! This is
    one ROCKIN’ DAY! :) Thanks to ALL here, and ALL who have helped expose the insidious abuses of the phony “church”.

  23. Giovanna, Giovanni, Luca, Armando, Paolo,

    Bravo! Very, very well done to all of you. Your messages were heartfelt and sincere. We are feeling the glow of your wins all the way to Texas.

    It takes courage to step out the way you have. You will be rewarded with many new friends and, more importantly, the peace of mind that comes only with personal integrity.

    Enjoy.

    Much love, Yvonne

  24. Ok, so one of these years we’re all going to Italy together to have a big party over there with our new Italian family. :)

  25. Five in one day? The “Waterfall Effect” is full on.

    Bu-bye Lil’ Dave……………

  26. Freedom Fighter

    Wahoo! More Italians in the Independent field! Bellissimo!
    You can view a translated version of the Italian site if you’re using a browser like IE 8. In IE, after going to the page, in the top right corner of the window, select “Page”, then select “Translate with Bing”. Bing will then proceed to translate the content on the page — not the best translation, but you’ll at least be able to get a good idea of what it says. It takes a few seconds to do the translation. You can track the progress at the top, left corner of the page.

  27. Hip Hip Hooray!!!
    The Italians have once again outdone themselves.
    Bravo, welcome, and please forgive me if I am interrupting your TA blowdown!!!!
    Love,
    Linda

  28. Theo Sismanides

    Italy once, in Scientology was a Continent by itself. They had their own CLO Italy. Then came New Era of Mismanagement and took that away from the Italians. I felt sorry for that. I was in the Sea Org and felt ashamed.

    I now give my full intention as a one thetan here from Greece to my friends in Italy to be the ruling force in ALL of Europe which is kind of sleeping. And ask for their help so that all of us move forward.

    Italian people have the spirit of play. No one made any Ferraris ever except for Enzo Ferrari!!!! So, they have the spirit of play. Now, united once again we can make the best race ever with an Italian vehicle (metaphor, of course). We just need the drivers who have those guts to drive Ferraris in a suppressed race. Roar, guys, roar all you want. You are way ahead!!!

    From Greece
    Theo

  29. Viva Italia!

    Beautiful people create beauty…

  30. Wow! VWD to all of you! And Ignazio, you rock!

    Last year we started with Sam jumping out of a tree…..now it seems the whole forest is waking up and embracing the joy of self-determinism.

    A very hearty “BRAVO” to you all!

  31. I still only know one word in Italian…I’ll make it really big CIAO!!!!!

    Well done to each of you wonderful beings. What an enormous boost in freed theta and auditors plus pc greater than that bank of David Miscavige’s oooky place.

    • Jim Logan, you don’t have to learn Italian. Use the Google translator like the others here.

      Google Translate:

      Jim Logan, non devi imparare l’italiano. Utilizzare il traduttore di Google come gli altri qui.

  32. Benvenuti tutti e di ciascuno! Sento la tua beatitudine.
    (Welcome one and all! I feel your bliss.)
    L’amore,
    Marta

  33. Wow more Italians!!!

    Very cool!

    I think the whole country has gone Indie now.

    Sorry Dave.

    Maybe you and OSA can work on saving Corsica.

    BTW does the word the word “Waterloo” mean anything?

    • lol ,and just as with Napoleon a coalition of forces oppose the COB – Indies, Ex-Scientologists, politicians, internet geeks and family members of those harmed. Maybe DM should also be banished to an island to stew on the havoc he has created. I think he’d go quite mad if left alone with his thoughts

    • Waterloo is a small village in Belgium where Napoleon lost the battle against Wellington and this leads finally to the end of Napoleons reign.

  34. Molto Berne! Viva Italia! The first independant country!

    Time to say Goodbye (Con Te Partiro):

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0BC7816E26758076&playnext=1&v=tcrfvP11Hbo

    ML Tom

  35. p**** la madonna !

    The rather new Italian Independant Movement already in full blown affluence !!!

    How big will your group be in a year … :-) :-) :-) or in five … :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

  36. Il messaggio a DM: Come il diamine la sono intendendo riparare tutto il danno che lei ha fatto alla Chiesa di Scientology? Dapprima era qualche partire indipendente qui e là, ora lei allenta gli italiani in multiplo! Per un individuo così piccolo lei sicuro sono bravo in inseguire molte persone lontano dalla sua chiesa.

    Al nuovo Indipendente: Le congratulazioni sulla sua nuova libertà trovato dalle oppressioni di DM. Potere voi tutti vivono lungo e rendere prospero.

    Le considerazioni, AB

    Translation:

    Message to DM:
    How the heck are you going to repair all of the damage you have done to the Church of Scientology? First it was a few independents leaving here and there, now you are loosing the Italians in multiples! For such a small guy you sure are good at chasing a lot of people away from your church.

    To the new Independents:
    Congratulations on your new found freedom from the oppressions of DM. May you all live long and prosper.

    Regards,
    AB

  37. Giovanni, Giovanna, Luca, Armando & Paolo, welcome to the world of selfdeterminism; may you greatly impact Italy. VWD to Sylvia and Ignazio.

  38. This is wonderful and it shows news can spread like wildfire amongst Italians. Keep in mind, the entire country of Italy was created based upon the overthrow of the Papal States. This was under the tutelage of Adam Weishaupt’s successor, Giuseppe Mazzini, who organized the revolt through Carbonieri (the name of the Italian police to this day). Popes were called prisoner popes after that time because they had no power. Will DM become a prisoner pope? Vatican changed its status with 1929 Lateran Treaty orchestrated by Mussolini which gave Vatican the status of a country with full diplomatic rights and also the ability to bank. It thereafter became an avenue for laundering money. See a pattern here? That astrology reading I had done indicated DM was laundering money (above and beyond the IAS nonsense) big time in collusion with government black ops or dark ops. When you have big money like he does, you are in a whole different world. I wonder if Jonno Epstein has a clue about any of this. I got into Scn at the same time he did and we even lived in the same house. Haven’t heard about him in years. Being on the money lines, he’ll have a story to tell some day. Anyone heard about him of late?

    • I agree with you metaqual.

      Personally I’ve always thought there was something more sinister behind this whole “Ideal Org” scam than merely the acquisition of real estate.

      It’s a perfect simonizing operation with the average Scientologist is taken to the cleaners while a few profit.

      Cui Bono?

      As Szasz would say.

  39. Bella ITALIA…
    The people that invented the Sun…..
    Let it shine over the world !

    Grazie mille !

  40. Boy, am I having a ball at this? It’s so theta to audit these persons and the results are just by the book. More to come for the LRH B/day celebration, stay tuned!!

  41. Five declarations in one posting, all Italian. That’s a juggernaut effect! Can we embrace it? Of course we can! Welcome one and all!! H

  42. Bravo ! Congratulazione ! Welcome to the Independets :-)
    Italians storming forward going Independent on the European Continent.

  43. One of the judges of the X Factor (English Version American Idol) said of Alexandra Burke — winner of the X Factor 2009 — “You are in a different league”

    The Italians are in a different league!!!

    Bravo!

    Love,
    WH

  44. YOU ITALIANS ROCK! CONGRATULATIONS.

  45. *TOP SECRET * CONFIDENTIAL *

    To: All Int Base Staff, Freewinds and Flag Service Orgs, PAC, OSA, IAS, Class V Orgs, AOs, WISE, ABLE, Narconon, All Members of the Church of Scientology, Nation of Islam

    From: COB RTC
    Re: ITALY

    Due to recent ongoing and uncontrollable suppressive actions and attempts to circumvent the Church in Italy, everyon is hereby officially ordered to disconnect from Italy. The list of prohibited connections include (but are not limited to):

    Italians
    Pasta
    The Mafia
    Italian Fashion and Clothing
    Italian-Made Jewelry
    Ferraris
    Lamborghinis
    Fiats
    Maseratis
    Vespas
    Columbus
    Rome
    Olives
    Tomatoes
    Italian Wine
    Canolis
    Cappaccino
    Prosciutto
    Hand Jestures
    Laughing
    Leonardo da Vinci
    Utterance of the words ‘Italy’ or ‘Italian’
    Michaelangelo
    The colors Green, White and Red
    Italian Facial Expressions
    Latin
    Opera
    All Italian Words
    Espresso
    Gelato
    Alfa Romeos
    Frank Sinatra
    Dean Martin,
    Al Martini
    Sophia Loren
    Ducatis
    Bacci Ball
    Pizza

    Operation Italia Sconnessione (Disconnection) Mini-Pgm:

    1. A 24 Time Machine Order is hereby issued for all materials which have been translated into Italian to be untranslated.

    2. All maps are to have Italy cut out and replaced with blank land.

    3. All GPS systems are to have Italy removed.

    4. All Orgs in Italy are to be immediately shut down and converted to Anti-Italian Operations Centers for the purpose of helping to eliminate everything Italian.

    5. All Italian staff and public are to immediately apply to the court for a name change.

    6. All Italian-made vehicles are to be sold or traded.

    7. All Italian food is to be removed from all Church-operated restaurants.

    Enough is enough.

    Anyone found to be connected in any way to anything Italian will be assigned a Condition of Triple-Expanded Treason with full quadruple penalties and will be immediately assigned to the Anti-Italian RPF.

    Captain David Miscavige
    COB, RTC

    • Amended to delete Mafia of the disconnection list and to maintain close communication with P2 and the Fascista as they may be needed for OSA operations.

      OSA Int will move to Sicily where they’ll feel more at home.

      Amendment signed by David Miscavige Supreme Ruler and commander of the known universe.

    • ΘTater/GaryLerner

      They have to disconnect from Sophia Loren?!! What a torturous bastard DM has become!

    • Marie-Joe DePhillips

      OMG! You’re hilarious!!!

      Most of these are on my “favorite things” list. I would walk out instantly If I wasn’t already out.

  46. Tsunami of Freedom! Welcome! :)

  47. Now thats Italian!!!! The Independents should actually takeover the delivery part of SCN and pay the auditors more then 20 cents an hour

  48. Go Italy!!!

  49. The biggest DIFFERENCE between the Independents and the current C of S is that the Independents delivers happiness and the C of S delivers pain, sorrow and of course little to no happiness. They also rip u off from the moment u enter the fold until the moment u leave. They r in your front, back and side pocket as well as every bank account and investment fund they can get their hands on if u let them.

    LEAVE NOW!!!! Its detrimental to ur physical, mental and spiritual well being. Tell ur friends and family to leave while they can!!!

  50. Gavino è l’italiano. Sfortunatamente, egli riconosce traduzione automatica immediatamente.

    Gavino is Italian. Unfortunately, he recognizes machine translations immediately.

  51. Holy Smokes! Italy is back in action!!! Hello to all of you wonderful beings out there. I can feel the theta emanating all the way over here. Welcome to the Independents!

  52. Best wishes and congratulations to Giovanni Servalli, Giovanna Ongaro, Luca Servalli, Armando Comincini and Paolo Grazioli for standing up and leaving, and for publicly speaking out!!

  53. ΘTater/GaryLerner

    Honour or honor (from the Latin word honos, honoris).

    I do believe that Honor was invented by Italians. Welcome dear friends and thank you for your “honor”. It’s helped to define who we are as supporters of LRH’s Tech and wisdom.

    Love and ARC,
    Gary

  54. To all my Italian new friends:

    Welcome to the world of Independence and True Freedom!

    You have taken a great step and in doing so, have demonstrated great courage and integrity. Welcome to the true world of Scientology.

    My admiration goes to all of you.

    Luis Garcia

  55. Excellent. You don’t know me in body but you sure do in Spirit, welcome to a whole bunch of friends…

  56. Well done Italians !

  57. Grazie di cuore a tutti!!!

  58. Marie-Joe DePhillips

    Wow! All these beautiful people reclaiming their Freedom.

    Congratulations!!! Sending you all big hugs from the USA – Marie-Joe

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