Ronnie Bell and Personal Integrity

Another Texan! What’s up with Washington, Florida and Cali these days?  And the rest of the world for that matter. By the way, if you haven’t already done so, go to and sign the Indies 500 list.  I think Steve Hall is right – it’ll take just about 500 to mark the final tipping point.  Welcome aboard Ronnie. This write up right here Smokes, with a capital S.  – Marty

Dear friends and family,

I’d like to share something very personal with you.

Scientology is a subject that teaches about, and helps one to attain personal freedom. Anti-social personalities are, of course, threatened by this, and suppress others’ freedom to discover truth for themselves.

“What is true for you is what you have observed yourself. And when you lose that, you have lost everything.

What is personal integrity? Personal integrity is knowing what you know. What you know is what you know and to have the courage to know and say what you have observed. And that is integrity and there is no other integrity.

Of course, we can talk about honor, truth, nobility—all these things as esoteric terms. But I think they would all be covered very well if what we really observed was what we observed, that we took care to observe what we were observing, that we always observed to observe.”

L Ron Hubbard
From the essay “Personal Integrity”

The freedom to observe is part of being a free person. Free people come to their own conclusions by freely making their own observations and investigations. A free person also keeps their own counsel, and selects their own decisions.

You’re certainly intelligent enough to reach your own conclusions about facts you freely investigate.

If you’re commanded to not investigate, is that freedom?

Why would someone bar you with fear of excommunication for the crime of simply observing?

There can be only two reasons:

1) The internet is so dark and evil that your whole being will be swallowed up forever in a paralysis of eternal damnation, if you so much as dare to look.

2) Someone is trying to hide something from you about them.

Relax for a moment and put your TR-0 in. Ask yourself: which of these answers seems more reasonable?

I think that educated Scientologists are smart enough and observant enough to differentiate between harmful third party and reports from honest individuals who are simply revealing what they themselves have observed.

In that spirit, I’d like to say that it’s possible that you may not have granted yourself the right to freely observe and investigate the many hundreds of honest reports about the true scene in our church.

I recently chose to put on my personal integrity hat, and do my own free investigation of these reports.

What I can tell you is that there are more of them than you might imagine. Secondly, the character and worthiness of the individuals making these reports is of the highest order. Many, if not most of these individuals, are highly trained and processed, and most have long careers of service on staff in the Sea Org and Class V orgs. In fact, you probably know many of these people personally.

After months of personal investigation, and comparing the reports of other Scientologists to my own observations of ‘things that should not be’ within our church, I applied the Doubt formula to the situation. My final analysis is that certain suppressive individuals within our church have done great harm to our religion and the third dynamic over the last thirty years. I have chosen to remain in that group who are loyal to LRH and to the Standard Tech of Dianetics and Scientology.

Please see my attached write-up.

In closing, I value you as a friend, and hope that you grant yourself the freedom to make your own observations, and draw your own conclusions about the current state of our church.

It’s very likely that you’ll soon be pushed to disconnect from me because of the position I’ve taken in regards to the church. Just know that LRH canceled the policy of disconnection in 1968 and never re-instated it (see RJ-68). No one has the right to force you to disconnect from anyone. Only you have that right.

Thank you for being there, and for communicating.


Ronnie Bell



My name is Ronnie Bell. I am now, and will always be a Scientologist.

After about a year of searching, I found Scientology in early 1973, when I was nineteen years of age. I attended a standard Dianetics lecture at the L.A. Org, and routed right onto the Hubbard Apprentice Scientologist (Comm) course. Long story short – that course was run Flag-style, and the incredible wins I experienced made me a Scientologist for life. Although I didn’t do a lot of training after completing the Comm Course, I read most of LRH’s books, did the HQS Course, and an introductory Ethics course, all in my first two years.

Over subsequent years, I completed Life Repair, the Purification Rundown, and the CCRD, as well as many Div 6 courses, and the Student Hat. I paid for OT Preps and Solo 1 at ASHO and AOLA (respectively) in the summer of 2005, and received six weeks of full time auditing at ASHO. That auditing began with my Clear status being de-certified, and went downhill from there. The final results of that auditing were inconclusive. I did not make it to the Solo 1 course.

I also served as a hired staff member in the Sea Org renovations org from 1988, to 1997. I worked on all of the major church projects in that time, including (but not limited to) HGB, LRH Exhibition, Manor Hotel and C.C., Saint Hill Castle, ASI, Flag Land Base, Sandcastle, Super Power building, Coachman, Clearwater Building, and PAC Base renos.

I’ve also worked on many volunteer projects, including the ASHO Central Files project in 1994, where I was the Volunteer I/C.

Since at least the early 1980s, I’ve noted a great many disturbing things occurring within my church. Some of these outpoints have been acute, one-off instances, while others have become chronic, down-trending situations of great magnitude and seriousness. Most of these are of such seriousness, that they’ve become real and present threats to the viability of the Church of Scientology as a group.

These chronic outpoints have grown to such a state of magnitude, that they have caused me a great deal of spiritual distress, resulting in decreased reach for the Bridge, lowered ARC with my natural constituents within the group, feelings of hopelessness about the health and well-being of my religion, and doubt about church management’s ability to correctly apply LRH tech to handle these issues.

Perhaps worst of all, I found that I’d fallen into tacit agreement with the suppressive and unspoken command to not look – not listen, and that I’d cut myself off from any information channel which did not emanate from church management. By doing so, I violated my own Code of Honor, and caused myself to operate in something of a PTS condition in life for many years.

I have recently looked over all of the outpoints with the existing scene in our church, and have given myself permission to become informed of the great number of Knowledge Reports by upstat Scientologists around the globe. Having looked at all of the evidence, and having consulted my own reality on what I’ve personally observed, it’s my conclusion that the corporate church and its officers have violated and degraded the tech of Scientology, and have sunk into lower conditions on the third dynamic.

As they say, ‘what has been seen, cannot be unseen’. Therefore, I have chosen to withdraw my allegiance from the corporate church, and to make it known that I intend to stand with those who remain friends of LRH, and who practice and disseminate the Standard Tech of Scientology, as developed and written by its founder. The following is a partial list of major outpoints within the corporate church that I am personally aware of.


Outpoints and Things That Should Not Be within the Church of Scientology


1. By direct observation, the number of students on major auditor training courses has fallen continuously and precipitously over the last 30 years.

2. Most Int level execs known to the public, have virtually disappeared from public view. In fact, the whole of the Int Exec Strata which was widely known to Scientology public has now become virtually invisible or non-existent. Letters and KRs to individuals, posts, and offices at that level, now routinely go unanswered.

3. Orgs have become more like new car dealerships, than oases of spiritual freedom. Public are often trapped into crush sales situations by staff of every level whenever they venture into an org. This aggressive over-reach on the part of church staff even extends to parishioners’ homes and businesses.

4. HGCs are much quieter and emptier than in decades past. Again, by direct observation.

5. The practice of disconnection is in full use by church officials today, despite the policy being canceled by LRH more than 40 years ago (see RJ 68). This has been attested to by hundreds of Independent Scientologists, whose friends and family members have been coerced into disconnecting from them after they have left the corporate church.

6. Clears and OTs have routinely had their Clear state invalidated on auditing lines for close to a decade. This has apparently been done by executive order, and has no basis in the written technology of LRH. This is a monstrously suppressive act, and has caused untold anguish, hardship, and disaster for thousands of Clears and OTs. Many have been spiritually crashed by this action, including myself.

7. An unwritten rule that parishioners should ‘not look – not listen’ has somehow solidified into a tacit agreement over the last three decades. Scientologist public are often warned by org terminals to ignore widespread reports about the church in the news media and on the internet. This violates a person’s right to freely give and receive communication, per the Code of Honor.

8. As a result of this suppress on Scientologists’ comm lines, most who are actively on lines in the church have no idea of the very real outpoints and failings of church management, both domestically, and internationally.

9. The international church puts on at least four major international events each year, which is a violation of LRH policy on the subject. LRH specifically forbid such gargantuan galas, as they take staff and public away from auditing and training, and drain precious financial resources.

10. All such international events are staged for the primary purpose of crush selling the public on new books and lectures, or for donations to the IAS. This is proven by the fact that public who attend such events are routinely funneled through a physical gauntlet of registrars and high pressure sales people when these events conclude. Church staff are even posted at the exits to force the public into the crush regging area.

11. Donations to the IAS from the Scientology public now number into the hundreds of millions of dollars, but there has been little result shown for such a massive outpouring of support. The public has been told that the IAS is keeping the church safe from outside suppression, but anyone availing themselves of widespread news coverage of the church’s court battles and struggles with governments, can see that this simply isn’t so. For the most part, church parishioners aren’t even dimly aware of what a precarious position the international church is in right now, as regards its reputation and PR with the broad public. In fact, parishioners have almost no awareness of the fact that the corporate church is primarily engaged in legal battles with Scientologists who have dared to speak the truth about gross outpoints, and even crimes they’ve witnessed within the church.

12. The public has been crush regged to donate to many ‘Ideal Org’ projects around the world. They’ve been led to believe that if they provide swank new quarters for their orgs, that they will attract new public, and help to expand the Scientology religion. Neither has occurred. Every such ‘Ideal Org’ is as empty of bodies as they were before their publics set them up in much more expensive digs. Now these orgs are in even worse shape than before, because their monthly building expenses have increased many times over. This program has forced orgs into ‘having to have before they can do’, which is a complete reversal of the natural order of Be – Do – Have. The ‘Ideal Org’ program also violates several LRH advices about procuring real estate for orgs. See HCOPL 23 Sept. 1970 Quarters, Policy Regarding on org premises. See HCOPL 24 February 1964, Issue II Org Programming on demanding donations for buildings.

13. The so-called Super Power Building in Clearwater is a glaring outpoint. It has been under construction for at least 18 years now, and is still not finished or occupied. This has flapped all over City of Clearwater lines for years, and the Flag Service Org has taken a lot of heat from the city about that idle real estate. This has caused inestimable damage to the PR of Scientology, both in Florida, and around the world.

14. Those on OT VII are forced to report to Flag every six months for a ‘check’. As it turns out, this ‘six month check’ is nothing more than a Sec Check, which is not required in the written LRH materials regarding that level. It’s also inspection before the fact, which is expressly forbidden by LRH ethics tech advices. Reportedly, the cost for this service is $10,000 per intensive. Not only is it out-tech, but it’s an absolute rip off of dedicated and upstat public. It is also highly destructive to parishioners’ income production, and family stability.

15. Per widespread reports, 30 of the 54 Class XII auditors ever made, have been declared SP. All 8 of the Class XIIs personally trained by LRH have been declared SPs. It is illogical in the extreme that such a high a percentage of a single group of people, are actually suppressive persons.

16. Most of the first 100 Clears have also been declared, including John McMaster, Clear #1. Again, this is a strong indicator that the true SP is active within the church.

“Now any time you find thirty people on staff being removed because they were suppressive, you know they had the wrong Why, because the percentages are wrong. It’s just as mathematical as that.

If they’ve done that then I can also assure you they’ve left the suppressive on the staff and I can also assure you the guy that did it was suppressive.”

Data Ser 41 RA, Evaluation, The Situation
(Management Series Vol. 1, p. 154)

17. The standard floating needle has been redefined by COB, David Miscavige, as a “three swing” needle. This is a squirrel definition of a phenomenon that has been well defined by LRH for well over half a century, and which has been learned and used by thousands upon thousands of successful auditors. Since this squirrel definition has been enforced, auditing times for processes and rundowns of all types has lengthened greatly, and over-runs on processes are now the rule, rather than the exception.

From Friends of ~ :

The contrivance of COB’s interpretation is borne out by the fact that, from the release of the bulletin What Is A Floating Needle in 1978 to the Senior C/S Conference in 1995, there isn’t one known instance of a student or auditor, from Class XII on down, having come to COB’s understanding of F/Ns on their own, despite thousands having word-cleared the definition.

Since this redefinition of F/Ns was first incorporated into the Pro Metering and Solo courses, students have been referred to sources as far-fetched as the Art Series, the Marketing Series, a physics text, and The Encyclopedia of Music, in order to understand it.

LRH’s definition of an F/N, on the other hand, couldn’t be simpler:

“A floating needle is a rhythmic sweep of the dial at a slow, even pace of the needle.

That’s what an F/N is. No other definition is correct.”

HCOB 21 July 1978
What Is A Floating Needle?
(Tech Vol. II, p. 204)


18. The so-called “Golden Age of Tech” has turned out to be an enormous invalidation of pre-existing technology developed by LRH. The hundreds of drills and verbatim memorization of materials has resulted in robotic auditors who have little ARC, Understanding, or Duplication, while auditing.

Per LRH:

“The only allowed practical drills on any Scientology course including PE [Personal Efficiency] are:

    1. Modified Comm Course for PE

    2. Original Comm Course TRs 0-4

    3. Original Upper Indoc TRs

    4. E-Meter drills contained in the Book of E-Meter Drills

    5. Dissemination drills when I write and release them.

    NO other practical drills of any kind will be permitted.

    Other practical drills are abolished.

    Reason: They consume time uselessly, suppress actual processes and mess up data and cases. I did not authorize these drills and have now seen that they teach alter-is of easy processes. They are not needed. They make poor auditors. I have just reviewed this matter thoroughly and have traced several training failures to these wildcat drills. Further, I traced several failed cases on course to them.

    Somewhere along the line somebody went mad inventing “drills” and “TRs”.

    If this is permitted to continue, we will no longer turn out good auditors. The standard drills as listed above have proven sufficient for years.”


HCO P/L April 1965 Issue II

        Drills, Allowed

        (OEC Vol. 4, p. 616)


The length of checksheets has also vastly increased over those in use during the true golden age of Scientology (1965 – 1980). There are many tech references by LRH that advise against long checksheets for auditors, and which do advise getting newly trained auditors in the chair and auditing. Per LRH, an auditor learns to audit by auditing – not by endless course study and drilling.

The following is from Friends of ~ :

With the issuance of RTC ED #450, COB announces his revamping of every single auditor course checksheet.

These include the Academy Levels, NED, Grad V, and the Briefing Course.

He also heralds new checksheets for all Div. 6 (Introductory) courses, such as Life Improvement, Dianetic Seminar, Success Through Communication, and HQS.

Finally, he announces the restructuring of all co-audit courses, such as TRs and Objectives, Scientology Drug Rundown, and Method 1.

Each of these checksheets has since been compared to its earlier versions. In almost every case, they were found to be far, far longer — often two to three times or more.

LRH warned of the devastating consequences that overly long checksheets have on training:


“Speedup of HDCs, Class IV, VI, VII, VIII and ‘HGC Auditor’ courses at all orgs, AOs (and SHs) would encourage more students. My time for it is 3 weeks. This was up to 5 and even 11 to 13 weeks at once by illegal checksheet increases.

    …Fast training gets students in.

    Slow training messes up the whole field and denies enrollments.”


HCOB 23 December 1970

    Fast Courses

    (Tech Vol. IX, p. 213)


“Unreal and lengthy checksheets [are] the most frequently used methods of stopping students.”


    Special Program, Fast Academies

    3 October 1967

    (OEC Vol. 4, p. 372)


See also; HCOPL 7 Feb. 1965 Keeping Scientology Working, HCOB 8 March 1962 The Bad Auditor, HCOB 22 January 1977 In-Tech, The Only Way to Achieve It.


19. Through deceit, and the suppressive practice of dissuading Scientologists from accessing widely disseminated news and media, church management has caused Scientologists to believe that they are the only source of LRH’s spiritual technology. The vast majority of staff and public within corporate Scientology have no idea that LRH’s technology is widely in use outside the corporate church. There are literally hundreds of Independent Scientology groups and practitioners delivering On Source training and processing outside of the established churches. In fact, it’s been reported by thousands of ex-corporate church members, that these individuals and organizations are delivering far superior results, and are more On Source, than any corporate church orgs. The truth is, the entire Bridge is available outside the corporate church.

20. The corporate church has discontinued measuring their production by the only two stats that LRH considered to be of primary importance. Those are; number of case completions, and number of new auditors graduated. Today, the public is wowed by stats at international events such as, ‘number of new square feet added’, ‘Basic books and lectures sales’, ‘number of people studying the Basics’, ‘number of books translated’, ‘populations of countries where Scientology has taken hold’, etc. All of these are impressive, but they’re simply sub-products of the only stats that count – number of case completions, and number of new auditors made. Unsurprisingly, those two vital statistics are never mentioned at major church events, or in any of the church promotional materials.

“Orgs have only 2 major final valuable products.

One is well-trained auditors. The other is satisfied pcs.”

Life Repair Block
8 December 1970
(OEC Vol. 4, p. 145)

“The product of an org is well-taught students and thoroughly audited pcs.”

HCO P/L 17 June 1970RB
KSW Series 5R, Tech Degrades
(OEC Vol. 0, p. 14)

21. A recent comparison of auditor training completions published in church magazines from the mid-70s to the present day, shows a ten-fold decrease in the number of auditor course graduates and major case completions. Despite the glitz and glamor of church magazines, Ideal Org buildings, and international events, the fact is, the corporate church of Scientology is shrinking fast.

From: ~

“In early 1971, ASHO’s The Auditor magazine, Issue 61, listed the total number of Scientologists who had trained on the Hubbard Standard Dianetics Course (HSDC). This list includes graduates from the course’s initial release in May 1969 to the publication of this magazine less than 2 years later.

Here is a summary:

LA Org                  209 (over 2 a week)

    ASHO                    146 (about 1½ a week)

    San Francisco     88 (1 a week)

    Toronto                83 (1 a week)

    New York            64 (1 every 11 days)

In contrast, completions of the New Era Dianetics (NED) Course — the modern equivalent of the Hubbard Standard Dianetics Course — compiled from 2004 to 2005 revealed the following:

LA Org                  0

    ASHO                    3

    San Francisco     4

    Toronto                0

    New York            2

The number of NED comps for 2006-08 varied slightly from 2004-05, but averaged out roughly the same. Compared to the figures from mid-1969 to early 1971, this represents a decline of 95 to 100%.”

22. By my personal observation and experience, many old timers (those who’ve been in Scientology for 30 years or more) avoid going into the orgs, and many have nearly given up on progressing up the full Bridge this lifetime. In my view, they, like me, have noted most of the outpoints above, and have quietly withdrawn from the church for the most part, because they don’t know how to fix what’s wrong with their church, and are afraid to rock the boat.

From: ~

When confronted with proof of an unprecedented crash at all levels of training, staff and public often respond with justifications and reasons why. LRH wrote extensively about the mental mechanism behind this phenomenon:

“One often wonders why people are so ‘reasonable’ about intolerable and illogical situations.

The answer is very simple: they cannot recognize outpoints when they see them and so try to make everything seem logical.

The ability to actually see an outpoint for what it is, in itself is an ability to attain some peace of mind.

…The human reaction is to REACT! to an outpoint. And then get ‘reasonable’ and adopt some explanation for it, usually untrue.

You can safely say that ‘being reasonable’ is a symptom of being unable to recognize outpoints for what they are and use them to discover actual situations.”

HCO P/L 30 September 1973 Issue II

    Data Series 30, Situation Finding

    (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 128)

“A lot of people are on a stuck flow of being sensible and sane — and that winds up in stupidity. So they get reasonable. Their confront of evil isn’t up to it — basically, their confront of outpoints.”

HCO P/L 18 March 1977RA

    Data Series 43RA, Evaluation and Programs

    (Management Series Vol. 1, p. 167)

23. The corporate church has priced Scientology services far out of reach for the average man and woman. LRH references exist wherein he goes into detail about how to properly price auditing and training, so that the vast majority of public can realistically afford it. Per LRH, services should be priced within reach of the lower middle class. That is certainly NOT the case with today’s prices for services, which can only be realistically reached by those in the upper middle class or higher. This is a suppressive act, as it puts Scientology auditing and training out of reach for most people.

Prices should be set according to HCOPL 23 Sept 1964 which is actually based on “the average lower class of lower middle class pay scale.” Such is clearly not the case today, where it costs upwards of $29,000 to become an auditor in a Class V Org, if one is an IAS member. This is more than half a year’s salary at the U.S. median income. In fact, that figure represents 100% annual salary for the average lower class of the lower middle class today.


In Summary

I can no longer ignore that which is clearly right in front of my eyes. I have not-ised the many outpoints I have seen within the church for over two decades now, and have paid dearly for my non-confront of evil and my tacit agreement with the fallen state of my church.

I have taken the time to make my own evaluations of the hundreds of reports written by upstat Scientologists outside the corporate church, and have found them to be not only credible, but solidly backed up by LRH advices, policy, and tech. Most of what I’ve read is also consistent with my personal observations, experience, and reality.

The overwhelming body of evidence to hand proves to me that the Church of Scientology has been taken over and transformed into a dictatorship by one David Miscavige, and that he has turned it into his personal fiefdom. Voluminous testimony by scores of formerly well-respected, highly placed officers of the Church, tells a sordid tale of betrayal, violence, illegal acts, manipulation, suppression, lies, alterations, and outright destruction of the Church hierarchy by this one man.

It is abundantly clear to me, that this one man has quietly been destroying all that LRH, the Sea Org, and dedicated staffs built, in the 30 years before he wrested control away from the duly appointed officers of the Church. He is the primary driver of every outpoint listed in my write-up above.

 “So we can assume that people who are a bit inclined to malign, knock apart and shoot the human race, and have that as their only goal, can get into Scientology and can remove things from the technical line, or pervert or alter things in the technical line, which then makes Scientology unworkable.”

“And the higher on a command line the power is drawn from, the wider area the alter-is covers.”


“An Introduction To Standard Tech”
24 September 1968

“There are people who suppress. They are few. They often rise up to being in charge and then all things decay. They are essentially psychopathic personalities. Such want position in order to kill.

…They arrived when they arrived, in charge of things, because nobody when they were on their way up said ‘No’. They are monuments to the cowards, the reasonable people who didn’t put period to them while they were still only small bullies and still vulnerable.”


HCO P/L 7 December 1969
Ethics, The Design of
(OEC Vol. 1, p. 483)

Until David Miscavige is brought to justice, and removed from his position of corporate control over the Church of Scientology International, I consider the corporate church and all who remain connected to it, to be PTS, and in lower conditions.

I hereby assign COB, David Miscavige the condition of Treason.


In the By-laws of the Church of Spiritual Technology, LRH differentiates between the RELIGION of Scientology and the CHURCH of Scientology. He EXPLICITLY says that the RELIGION of Scientology and the CHURCH are not necessarily “co-terminal.”

Exact quote:

“Religion of Scientology” and “Church of Scientology” shall not necessarily be coterminal.”

In light of the above, and the contents of this write-up, I now formally resign from the Church of Scientology and hereby declare myself to be an Independent Scientologist.

I’ve examined the stats of the corporate Church of Scientology, versus the stats of those upstat Scientologists who have been falsely declared and banished from their religion, and have found in favor of the banished. I now declare my allegiance to those who remain friends of LRH and the true technology of Dianetics and Scientology.

Ronnie Bell



377 responses to “Ronnie Bell and Personal Integrity

  1. I just want to point out something very obvious here. Something really big is happening. We are accelerating towards a tipping point. While I was still in the SO I kept in touch with the outside world and I had a library card and often spent my CSP time in book stores. I red two books that are very applicable for what we are witnessing with the independent movement. One was Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell and the other one is Linked by Albert Laszlo Barabasi. These books wonderfully explain with pure, easily digestible science and logic the process of reaching a tipping point where a sudden change will happen. The indicators are clearly there. Science is behind us my friends.

  2. As clear as a Ronnie Bell. Superb. Nice to meet you and I look forward to an “in person”.

    • Same here, Jim. It’s so nice to be among such an incredible group of high toned Scientologists. Feels just like home.

  3. OneFlyingUpTheCuckoosNest

    Hey Ronnie-

    Many see nothing—-hahahaha. I am glad you got up this morning.

  4. I just want to point out something very obvious here. Something really big is happening. We are accelerating towards a tipping point.

    I sense that, too, Happy. I really do. Call it intuition, or theta perceptics, but the fact that an effective revolution is building, is perceivable. I clearly see that tipping point coming, and am glad that I could add just one more weight on that scale.

  5. I just found out that I’m number 276 on the Indie 500! Yahoo!

    The Indie 500

    Come on y’all. There’s room for plenty more!

    • Well done. I just checked the list and noticed we have good number of new names there. As you said Ronnie there’s definately room for plenty more.
      Anyone reading here is most welcome to sign up.

      • Hi, Bob,
        I was on the FEBC program along with you, and I think you were doing KTL at the same time as I did my KTL, though you were ahead of me (did you twin with Vicky Dickie, or is my memory hazy on that point?)

        Anyway, my real name is Ulf Samuelsson and I started on staff in Gothenburgh 1989, then got sent on the FEBC program in 1991. I later got recruited for translations in May 1992, and I arrived to Gold in July 1992. I routed out and left Gold at the end of November 1997. Not a moment too early.

        I have been writing here now and then under the name Smeso, but I will write under my own name from now on. I told Steve Hall the reason why I haven’t been using my real name earlier when I sent him my application to the Indy 500 list.

        Who’s next?

        • Hello Ulf!! Welcome. Good to have you here!

        • Hi Ulf ! Nice to see you here.
          Yes I’m the one you recall as stated above.
          Thanks for the update on where you went from ITO in 92, I do remember you as well.
          Well done on joining the Indy 500 club .
          Perhaps we will collect up some more of the OEC/FEBC trainees from that time on the Indy list as well as here on Marty’s blog.
          Any takers on this offer?

  6. Congrats, Ronnie! Beautifully written and your observations really struck home.

    • Thanks, Don. I had a pretty high bar to reach. Some pretty awesome write-ups have been published here. I’m glad that my write-up indicated to you.

  7. Ronnie,

    Fabulous write up.

    Like many before me, I just want you to know I very much appreciate the LRH reference:

    “Religion of Scientology” and “Church of Scientology” shall not necessarily be coterminal.”

    Great to see you here in the Indie movement…

    I have been here in Marty’s “internet living room” for some time, but just signed up for the Indie 500 after reading your write up. Hope others are also inspired.

    Robert Almblad

    • I have been here in Marty’s “internet living room” for some time, but just signed up for the Indie 500 after reading your write up.

      Ok! Now I feel like I’m starting to get a product. I hope that many, many others follow my example, and stand up for truth and LRH. Now’s the time. It won’t count count for much, after the heavy lifting’s been done.

  8. Awesome write up, loved the Dianetic auditor comparison! Talk about orders of magnitude! This point quoted below is very real to me because I feel certain that the people I knew would not condone what is going on IF they looked. Welcome to Scientology!

    “What I can tell you is that there are more of them than you might imagine. Secondly, the character and worthiness of the individuals making these reports is of the highest order. Many, if not most of these individuals, are highly trained and processed, and most have long careers of service on staff in the Sea Org and Class V orgs. In fact, you probably know many of these people personally.”

    • Karen, please see my reply to your post below. I think I hit the wrong reply button when I posted to you. Thanks!

  9. Having just finished this lecture, it is amazing how it describes David Miscavige’s intention to CUT communication, to alloy affinity and to deny reality. The prohibition of even looking at anything other than the drivel, and REVERSE Scientology BY DEFINITION. LRH gives a “process” below that is guaranteed to drive one down the Know to Mystery Scale.
    “Scientology has moved up into a bracket of where one of its processes can process in reverse, right down to death or insanity, just as fast as it can go the other way. This is not a frightening fact, but it happens to be a true one. A Scientologist can handle life. Well, if he can handle life, he can certainly handle death.

    “All right. Now; what would this process be? Be the one of the more interesting processes because it would sound to the preclear like you were running the most reasonable process under the sun. Because this is what he is doing and therefore this reasonable process would be acceptable by him and he would run it.

    “Somebodywho had never heard me talk about this process, who had never heard it from anybody out in the field right now, would very happily run this process for you: “Give me some things you do not have to be in ARC with.”

    “And they’re just sure that there will be an end to this somewhere. There will be a stop to this somewhere. And somewhere on down the line, why, all of a sudden the ridges they’re accumulating and this horrible mass they’re getting into and this terrific anger they’re going down into or this grief they’re going down into will suddenly alleviate. They’ll think this will be a very good thing, you see. “Look at all the charge I am building up here and I’m going to spill.” They never spill it. It just gets more and more and worse and worse. They
    go down the Tone Scale.” Solution to Entrapment Series, Elementary Material: Know to Mystery Scale, 7 January 1955.

    • Excellent reference Jim. Sure does hit the nail on the head when it comes to Miscaviges actions. Thanks.

  10. Ronnie, LRH would be very very proud of you! Thank you for your awareness and integrity.

    Welcome to the show that never ends – Independent LRH Scientology!

    Love and ARC,

    • Ronnie, LRH would be very very proud of you!

      I said upthread, that I hope that wherever he is, the old man has gotten my comm, and is quietly giving me a VWD. I really want him to know that I have never abandoned him, nor my allegiance to the true tech of Scientology.

      Thank you!

  11. Ronnie Bell,
    My heart and conscience is lighter now. I am so happy to see you here and to read your posting. From late 2006 I was prevented from helping any public, there was no longer any FOLO Tours activities. Ultimately I was routed out in Sept 2007 as medically unfit for the S.O. Not sure what Martin is doing these days, but when I sent him my Doubt formula he politely disconnected from me. I hope your family is well and send you all love and good wishes.
    ex-CO Tours WUS, Eileen

    • My heart and conscience is lighter now. I am so happy to see you here and to read your posting.

      Thank you, Eileen. That means a lot to me. You were instrumental in helping me to gain an even greater degree of certainty on my Clear status than I had after the CCRD. I want to thank you for putting me in the right place so that could happen. It was a wonderful and totally validative experience.

      Much love to you, and I’m so happy to be here with you.

  12. Friends,

    I just happened on the following quote:

    “Many of life’s failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.”
    –Thomas Edison

    Independent Scientologists represent the quintessential quality of success.

    As such, we’ll carry on. And it’s wonderful.

  13. I feel certain that the people I knew would not condone what is going on IF they looked.

    And THAT is where we separate the wheat from the chaff.

    A person has to be willing to LOOK, before they can see. Sadly, not all have granted themselves permission to do so. Yet even those people know in their hearts, that all is not well within the group.

    I just had a dear friend email her response to my write-up. She asked me to remove her name from my contacts list, and told me that she’s routed my write-up uplines, calling it a “suppressive act”. I think it’s unfortunate that she viewed my write-up in that way. I can’t believe that she actually read the whole thing, then came to that conclusion.

    I takes a bit of courage to look. Not everyone is up to the task, just yet.

    • Tom Gallagher


      From memory, the most significant quote from LRH that has impacted my life is:

      ‘Look, don’t think. Feeling is a condensation of looking, And thinking is a condensation of feeling. So look, don’t think.’

      • ‘Look, don’t think. Feeling is a condensation of looking, And thinking is a condensation of feeling. So look, don’t think.’

        I remember running across something similar by LRH a long time ago, where he indicated that thinking is a low order of beingness. It rang true to me then, and affected me deeply. I don’t think I’ve done a whole lot of thinking, since.

  14. Hi all-
    I just got an email from a friend telling me that at one of the Scientology homes in Los Feliz- some of you might know it- its on Franklin Ave, East of Vermont in Los Angeles, no one is allowed to watch TV. They’ve unplugged the TV so nobody could see Debbie Cook on TV!

    LOL!!! :-)

    • Karla,
      I’ve got a feeling that no children will be allowed to read or be read any children’s stories, in case Debbie Cook is in one of them. Soon it will be forbidden to read anything, even a cereal box at breakfast, in case Debbie Cook’s email is printed in the ingredients.

      No cook books, that’s a given. No movies with Debbie’s in them. And soon, they’ll be wrapped up like a molecule. Unaware of anything and just pushed along by whatever pushes.

    • Karla,
      Does that mean that You Tube is blocked too?

    • Wow, that place is still around? When I first came to LA I worked as their breakfast cook for room and board while I got some auditing. Anyone remember the owners name in 1981, is she still in a body?

  15. Welcome Ronnie;
    After reading your write up I was struck by how much looking you did. I don’t know what got you started looking, but man did you look, and look and look. VWD!!!

    I am over joyed you took the time to get this data of yours on paper. For me it was like the SHOCK & AWE of doubt formulas.
    The very best to you and your family.

    • I don’t know what got you started looking, but man did you look, and look and look. VWD!!!

      Thank you, Jack.

      Well, I did look, and look, and look, but that’s all I did for years and years. I didn’t have a ready answer to the many outpoints which I was observing. None of it made sense, and it all just sort of rolled up into a ball that I didn’t know how to pick apart.

      Giving myself permission to read Debbie Cook’s famous email, is what finally loosened the blinders for me. Once I did that, the friend who sent it to me, provided the web address for Marty’s site, and the rest is history. I read non-stop, for 27 hours, the first day I landed here. I simply could not stop reading the huge mass of reports from the intelligent, upstanding Scientologists here.

      After about two weeks of daily reading, I felt like I’d seen enough to step up and do the right thing myself. I just could not do otherwise, seeing the great amount of responsibility that others here have taken.

      Thanks so much for your kind words. It’s good to be home.

  16. Well done Ronnie, good to see. It inspired me to put my name on the 500 list.
    I fell out with the phoney Church with the GAT – it didn’t work then and it doesn’t work now. I scratched my head for many years in wonder why such a departure from KSW Policy was so easily absorbed. Much on this blog has explained the issue and the comm lag (or the acceptance of the lies) within the 3rd Dynamic.
    The interesting issue at stake here is that the game is really only just beginning with the data we have; eternity is thataway ->
    Life doesn’t take holidays, Miscavige and his ilk just makes things messy.

    • Thanks for putting your name on the Indie 500 list, Sherb. The more people that stand up, the more others will find the courage to do likewise. I’m in debt to those who’ve stood before me.

      The interesting issue at stake here is that the game is really only just beginning with the data we have; eternity is thataway ->

      Love that!

  17. Thanks Ronnie for such a great summary. I now have all the references in one nice blog entry for use in responding to my ultimate declare notification.

    I really like how you started with the Personal Integrity essay, because as LRH wrote “…when you lose that, you have lost everything.”

    Very Well Done!

    • Thanks Ronnie for such a great summary. I now have all the references in one nice blog entry for use in responding to my ultimate declare notification.

      You’re most welcome, Cainisable. Please feel free to post my write-up wherever it will do good.

    • Cainisable, I’m right with you on the integrity thing. :)

      Great job, Ronnie!

  18. Ronnie,

    I have to tell you that your write up is a thing of beauty. Truly a comprehensive, cogent and honest look and the continuing decline of the C of S under the suppressive influence of Miscavige. Thank you for putting in all of the work and due-diligence to generate this fantastic “Things That Shouldn’t Be” report.

    As for why people go into “tacit agreement” with the likes of Miscavige? Some believe in institutionalization and super-regulation of human behavior.

    Others, not so much…

    • Much appreciated, Scott. It feels good to see my work be given such high marks by people I respect and value so much. I’m very glad that I could add just a bit more weight toward tipping the scale back in the favor of good.

  19. Ronnie – Your communication, with all details and references was a pure joy to read. Laser sharp in its statement. Other posters have already written so much of what I feel so I will just saw +1000 to theirs and thank you. Welcome to the bastion of the free beings of the world. Freedom to be, to do and to have. Freedom to read, understand and apply the tech LRH left us without interpretation or enforced conclusions.

    Now, get yourself some range time and enjoy your weekend!

    • Thanks, SA. I really do need to get some shooting in. Problem is, my business has suddenly taken off like crazy (hmm….wonder why?).

      Maybe I can sneak off to the range in a few weeks after things quiet down a bit. Thanks!

  20. Ronnie,

    WOW!!! Excellent write-up…very beautifully presented! You are truly a great communicator…thus, a truly great artist! (You have a great comm cycle…you have ack’d just about everyone that has commented. I have a feeling you’re very busy trying to keep up with all the comm and theta coming your way…you deserve it!)

    I perceive that the sound waves of “ringing the Bell” are traveling around Earth and creating a wondrous effect!

    VVWD!!! You are an inspiration!

    Thank you and continue!

    • Hi Cre8 (cool nick!),

      Yeah, it’s been a real kick keeping up with all of these responses, but I’m an old discussion board junkie, and sort of expected it. I’m just surprised and delighted that so many people think so much of my work. I really didn’t predict that it would be received so well. I am truly touched by the wonderful response.

      I really do hope that my work travels far, and that it creates similar effects upon all that it touches. If I can help the healing process just a little bit, I will feel that I’ve achieved something of value with this.

      Thank you!

    • Replace the words Fed Reserve and put in David Miscavige’s name and OSA minions and it reads just as true. The principles are the same.

  21. Excellent work Ronnie! You spent a great deal of time and effort and put it all together into a total package. We should print it out and send it to our people still drinking the Kool-aid. Thank you so much!

    Gary Halonen
    Helped formed three Canadian Missions and former Senior Crse Super
    Toronto Org

    • Hi Gary, don’t know if you have commented here with your name before, but if not, welcome! Nice to know who you are and what you have done. I hope you are using your technical skills to help others in the Indie field. Case Supervisors are extremely valuable, as are those who can establish organizations, especially on the frontier of “new people”.

    • We should print it out and send it to our people still drinking the Kool-aid. Thank you so much!

      Thank you, Gary. Please, be my guest! That write-up will do little good, simply making the rounds of the choir. The Kool-Aid drinkers are the ones who most need to see it.

      I’d just ask that folks who do so, send both parts. The intro with the LRH quotes on personal integrity provides a gradient for the reader to step up to the meat and potatoes in the point by point write-up.

      Much appreciated, Commander!

  22. I am thinking, when all is said and done, some of us here on the “outside” have had some losses.

    All of this protest is still an attempt to “win”. Why shouldn’t we? Isn’t that what we bought into?

    When you beat, torture, run can’t haves and berate people, are you setting them up for a win or a loss?

    David, you have insisted on having losers in this game. We are all a product of your postulates.

    You are on a determined path to ensure the lot of us will LOSE. Well how fucking sane is that? Are you not at least supposed to be pan determined?

    O.K. the leader of the Church is not a pan determined human being. Well that explains a lot!

    What would give him a big win this year? If we all got registered as road kill!

    This is the man who has taken command of the “Free Earth” drill. He has his own mates on lock down! He wants his own commarades dead and on lock down. What kind of leader is that? A competent leader would ensure EVERYBODY on his team WINS in the game.

    He fucked up. He fucked up to the point that there are more losers than winners! That is really fucking up! Go to ESMB and listen to the moans of the vets crippled in this war. They matter. If you think they do not matter you are falling into the same bag of dismissing people who trusted. That is not cool. Everybody was supposed to win in this game. I am not making excuses for those that did not. They bought in with hope. That hope should have been realized. David and his Church blow it all off as “people who did not matter”. They DO matter. I matter. We matter. And it was up to him as a leader to make everyone matter. I do not care about the Abra caddabra he did legally with the corporations the money whatever. He could have done it all and made everyone matter and win.

    The point is, he took the whole theater to a place where he was the only one that mattered, and that is where he blew it.

    The reason Marty is winning in this battle, is because he includes others as people that matter. I myself have been thrown under the bus as someone who did not really matter. And it has been run on me by others who had it run on them. When people’s children do not matter we have really hit a road block.

    And I will tell you right now this battle will all go to Marty’s court in the long run because of one datum only. Marty consents that other people matter.
    David only thinks that he matters.

    And this is a real make break issue.

    If nobody matters around DM, they will not and his power will fold.

    If everybody matters around Marty, his power will grow because it all matters.

    How elementary can you get? This does not take a rocket scientist!

    David destroys the power at his disposal by making nothing out of it! It does not matter! Only he matters! Keep at it David and do not let me get in your way! It is the power you rejected that has come back to haunt you like a virus. You are only still obsessed with making nothing out of it, yet , now you cannot take your eyes off of it for fear that it has risen greater than you.

    This out does Shakespeare .

    • Not that anything I could say would matter. Not to a man with so many slaves and so much money and so little time to benefit from all of it. Unless I mentioned that I too, had made the same mistakes and learned from it because I was willing to confront wrongness and failure.

    • CrashingUpwards

      Oracle, Great points. First, there is a lot of pain in the other forums and we need to recognize its sources, acknowledge it, and remember it going forward. Secondly, the power formula is being grossly violated by DM. He has taken power from LRH and the tech and returned only an altered product and ruined reputation. From the Scientology community and staff he has financially bled them dry, flowed to them no power and blown up the bridge in key spots. He is thus left isolated and stranded on an island and the water is rising. Sadly, there are others stranded on the island with him who are looking for a way to save themselves and do not know how. Fortunately, the Royal Scotsman and Avon River have been put back into service and are on their way with a lot of their original crew and other seasoned staff veterans in the hope of finding survivors. Stay tuned.

    • And I will tell you right now this battle will all go to Marty’s court in the long run because of one datum only. Marty consents that other people matter.
      David only thinks that he matters.

      I believe what you say is true. Miscavige will lose in the end, because of his base motivations. He only cares about himself, and doesn’t give a whit how much others lose, so long as his own precious position is fed and protected.

      An empire built on fear, mistrust, violence, force, greed, self-agrandizement, threat, and can’t haves – is pre-destined to fall. And fall, it will.

  23. Firebreathing Frog

    Great write up.
    Part of your story so close to mine, brought tears to my eyes.
    Also started Scientology on an HAS course in 1978, is an org so booming, you could hardly find any place to sit.
    If you would go to the toilet in the middle of the course, by the time you’d come back, your place was taken by another students.
    Tons of people training, 1000 of WDAH.
    And Dear Leader have the balls to claim “more expansion in the last year alone than all the previous billion years combined.”
    I start doing my write up now.

    • Part of your story so close to mine, brought tears to my eyes.
      Also started Scientology on an HAS course in 1978, in an org so booming, you could hardly find any place to sit.

      Thanks, fellow old timer. It’s up to those of us who experienced the joys of real, unadulterated Scientology to step up to the plate and push forward the movement to restore our beloved church to that beingness.

      I’ve spoken openly with fellow Scientologists for years and years about that one huge outpoint. It feels very good to finally say it in a broad public issue. In my mind, that ideal scene is what the end product of this fight is all about. I would so love to report for course, and have to set up in a side room, because the course room is overflowing. That’s what I’m fighting for.

      I’m glad that I helped inspire you to begin your own write-up. The more of us who do that, the easier it makes it for others to do the same. I believe that making the Independent environment safe, is key to getting our hidden brethren to stand in the light with us. It’s going to take a very large and vocal presence to force the needed changes in the corporate church.

  24. Thanks for the link to the news in France. A COUNTRY IS GOING AFTER SCIENTOLOGY AS A GROUP, BUT ALL THE CHURCH CAN DO IS SUE DEBBIE COOK? This is an extreme altered importance, and stupid, and I know that if Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder were handling things for the Church, the situation in France would never have been allowed to go that far. More proof that David Miscavige doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the reputation and standing of the Church of Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard. Excuse my language, that is a phrase I never use, and it is not lady-like, but it is the truth, and I am being sudden right now. He has gotten rid of the people who kept him out of trouble. The personnel he has left to handle things are bumbling stooges. You are right, he killed his own power, because he was the only one that mattered, and seems to be totally unable to apply the first and third dynamic power formulas, with the exception of being able to be ruthless. That one factor, he has down cold.

    Thank you also for your moving commentary on the fact that nobody else seems to matter to David Miscavige. I have often said he is an “only one”, but you have described this in detail in such a way that it is much more real to me, the lives he has hurt and the damage he has done. I am still repairing my own life, after getting my son back, but have realizations every day about how things could have been different for me and others if the correct technology had been applied. I was also thrown under the bus, and my son was the one who paid the dearest price for this. I sat around for many years, doing nothing effective about my life and situation, and the Indie movement got me going again.

    The wonderful thing about being an Indie is that one still has a chance to get the correct technology applied. Those still in the Church do not have that opportunity, unless they can read some unaltered version of what LRH has written, and apply it directly to their lives. I am certain the wins of those still in the Church, are this kind of win. I am very thankful that I got most of my auditing and training in the Church before David Miscavige took over, and it was wonderful beyond belief. Those wins and gains gave me a belief in the validity of the philosophy and its applications, that no person, agency, or church, can take away.

    You matter to me, Oracle, and I hope that you are able to use the appropriate LRH tech to repair your life, also. That is the incredible part of being an INDIE. WE ARE FREE TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. We can apply any part of it, any day of our lives, as we see fit, with no invalidation, no evaluation, just plain and simple: READ IT, DRILL IT, DO IT. I handled the situation with my son using LRH PR Series 18, HOW TO HANDLE BLACK PROPAGANDA, and simple TR’s. (Training Routines, drills that teach basic communication skills.) I went from being a total effect of this situation, to a very causative position. I notice Debbie Cook and her lawyer are using a similar strategy in handling her situation with the Church. I was scared to death to do what I did, but at that point I felt I had nothing to lose. I kept expecting the Black SUV’s to show up outside my door, but they never did. (Actually one did show up one morning, but it was just someone waiting to give a neighbor a ride, LOL.) My point is that the technology and policies that LRH has given us, WORK, even when we are scared out of our minds, and we just have to choose the ones that apply to the situations that we find ourselves in, and USE them.

    One of the realizations that I had from your comment was a deepening idea of how much that L. RON HUBBARD CARED ABOUT PEOPLE, and how much they MATTERED to him. Every piece of the technology was developed in an effort to make SOMEONE ELSE’S LIFE BETTER. There is SO MUCH INFORMATION on how to make one’s life better, that the problem becomes finding out which piece of it should be used and applied to handle the situation one is in.

    There are many Indies who are technically trained available to give help, advice, along with auditing and training. I got help from an Indie Class VIII, who didn’t charge me for her service, as money was an issue. I did a very simple program, and a few weeks/months later, was in an Affluence. So, help is available, if one is having trouble applying the correct technology. Most Indies would do anything to help a fellow Scientologist to get out of the soup, with or without a fee. We are all here for each other, and the value, help and assistance available to any Indie willing to reach for it, is beyond compare. We have a true community with no rivals anywhere, for love, friendship, assistance, communication, help, and caring. WE ARE THE NEW CIVILIZATION, AND WE ARE MAKING RON’S GOALS HAPPEN!

    So, it took a few tire tracks across one’s back to get here, but we got here. Please e-mail if there is anything I can do to help. Thanks for the reminder that there are still some of us under the bus!

    • This was in response to The Oracle. Didn’t post under his comment.

    • 1) I would like to know who in france is liason to translations of Marthy ‘s Blog?
      2) Alain Rosenburg the guy mentioned in the french papers /and media was the head of the Celebrity Centre along with his wife Sara / I had personal contact with them for years / and got cut off.Who knows any link to locate them? Their family use to run a wealthy clothes business whether thats in tack haven’t a clue .If any one has a link or via some sort of tel email that could help lead to alain , to findout directly /I have a feeling quite frankly he would be diseffected by now. appreciate this asap.Thank you Hadley.

    • Thanks Lady Min. Don’t worry about me, I’m in a good place and have been on the bridge. The longest I was off the bridge was the six years I spent in the Sea Org. And I have others on the bridge too. It’s the others that matter to me and I just think this game was created for everyone in it to win. Not only one person. You matter to me too!

  25. This time in history should be a great study for exactly how to ruin an organization’s reputation completely. 1. – Deviate from original successful actions. 2. – Lie to and hide truth from staff, media and the public. 3. – Abuse people physically, mentally and financially. 4. – Kick out people standing up for doing the right thing and treating people with decency, so they go on to tell all of their family, friends and associates.

    I’m sure there are many more things here not generally covered, but you get the point. Most on-lines public are afraid to disseminate because they’re either too embarrassed to admit they are part of the church or because they know their family and friends will not approve of the gross financial raping that occurs with every visit to the course room, the HGC, events, over the phone and even with suddenly-appearing people on your doorstep. Those who have left or been declared tell all of their associates about what is wrong, and the national and international media keeps away millions more. If word of mouth is the best form of PR, the reverse is also true, it will be the downfall of the organization. A bunch of empty buildings, a hugely ARCx field, and nothing but their own lies to defend themselves, which only makes things worse. It is the perfect storm of implosion, leaving all those out to try and salvage some sort of dignity and respect for the philosophy developed that can really help people.

    • Additionally, there is the factor, as LRH says, that public will stay away in droves from orgs that are not LRH (read on-Source) Orgs. Since King of the Squirrels Miscavige has remade the orgs into DM OFF SOURCE ORGS, it is no surprise the public stay away in droves.

    • I would add to your list counter “inteligence” against defectors. Their only problem is that this is their type of “intelligence”:

    • If word of mouth is the best form of PR, the reverse is also true, it will be the downfall of the organization. A bunch of empty buildings, a hugely ARCx field, and nothing but their own lies to defend themselves, which only makes things worse. It is the perfect storm of implosion, leaving all those out to try and salvage some sort of dignity and respect for the philosophy developed that can really help people.

      Quentin, that’s a powerful post, and a great summary of the whole blasted situation. I would love to see you expand that post into a full-blown article. You’ve described the ongoing disaster within the church and the Scientologist field to a T.

      I was just mentioning to my wife this morning how the Scientology field has greyed. When I first became a Scientologist in the early 70s, the average age of Scientologists was somewhere in the mid-twenties. The average age of Scientologists is now somewhere in the late forties, or early fifties. That reality speaks to an organization that isn’t attracting and keeping new members at a rate that is equal to, or greater than the rate that it’s losing them through natural attrition.

      It doesn’t take a trained Data Series Evaluator to see what’s occurring. Something, (more like someone) is stopping the inflow of new bodies into the shop. And, the fact that the average age of church public has increased nearly two-fold, indicates that the suppress has been on the lines for a very, very long time.

      Yet again, we see a simple, observable fact that puts the lie to all the distorted claims of “global expansion!” Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!!

      • Part of the the reason for the aging population is that many of these people’s children have been recruited into the SO, treated horribly and blown/routed out. Those that stay in the SO adopt the punishment-drive viewpoint and that’s how you wind up with a 19 yr-old MAA believing it’s okay to demand for public to spend tens of thousands on donations as part of their “ethics cycles” and even arrival routing forms. All the while driving more and more people away. I’ve experienced many different staff and public situations various LA-area SO orgs, Flag and several Class V orgs in between. The outlook is grim, at best. Still having a tough time washing out the bitter taste of all the betrayal.

  26. It appears Miscavige does not like the Indie 500 list. On Friday I received an OSA-stooge phone call, an email and one dirty op — my hushmail account was temporarily shut down for “violating” their terms of service which sounds like either an innocent mistake by hushmail or an OSA false report at work (and future foot bullet). So, flourish and prosper by keeping those names coming. The list already reads like a Who’s Who — veteran Scientologists, the highest trained auditors, staff with years of experience, ex RTC and Int base staff.

  27. Random comment: There is a pianist who performs nightly at one of our local restaurants. I’m told she is on OT VII and use to be a D of P at FSO. She plays classical music, broadway tunes, etc but only one rock song (at least when I’ve heard her): Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody! LOL!

  28. It appears Miscavige does not like the Indie 500 list. On Friday I received an OSA-stooge phone call, an email and one dirty op…

    Oh my. Is someone feeling threatened by the sudden and increased expansion of the Independent field? Is the blistering white light of truth becoming a bit too warm? It must suck to see the cool and comforting darkness slipping away from one’s fortress of evil.

  29. Ronnie

    Very nicely done.
    I very much enjoyed reading your writeup.
    It is good to have you as part of this community.

    Eric S

    • Very nicely done.
      I very much enjoyed reading your writeup.

      I appreciate that very much, Eric. It’s great to be home.

    • Hey Eric,

      A little birnie told me you were around. Nice to know. Say hi to the missus. I miss you both, but will try to see you this summer. Have fun meanwhile. :-)

      • Chris

        Yes, it has been a while. Good to see that you are auditing in the field.
        At some point we will get to catch up for sure.

        Eric S

  30. “My name is Ronnie Bell. I am now, and will always be a Scientologist.”

    Yowsa! Welcome back, Ronnie! The HAS course was my first course as well, also taken at the LA Org, Christmas of 1976. It was tough, and it made me a Scientologist. So I hear you! I’m very happy you’re here. Party’s in the next room! :-)

  31. Max Bleiweiss

    Hi Ronnie,
    I guess my post yesterday got lost in the ether. I hope this one makes it.
    I was on staff at L.A. Org from 1973-76, mostly course sup. Then SO
    NWC Int 1980-85 (on the RPF from ’83-85, same time as Mike Rinder.)
    I’ve been off lines for about 10 years and I had heard about the problems with Rinder and Rathbun but I didn’t really get my stable datums shaken
    till the Debbie Cook interview the other day. That’s when I started to
    research and found this blog and then your writeup. I am going through
    quite a bit of anguish over this whole scene which I know everyone on
    this site can sympathize with. I want to believe that everything I am reading
    is not possible but it looks like I will have to confront what is so obviously
    the truth. Your writeup helped me to do that and I thank you for it.

    • Max

      Take your time. There is a lot to digest. What I found is that as the dust settles one often gradually becomes more and more certain of oneself and more uptone.

      You are welcome here. This is a good bunch of beings… perhaps some of the best you will ever find. Enjoy.

      Eric S

  32. Thank you Eric S

  33. Karry Campbell


    Well done for such a great write up. Wonderfully complete!! Thank you for putting all of that together.

    Good to be “alive” and “communicating” isn’t it?

    Best Wishes,
    Karry Campbell
    FB – “Indie Scientologist” Admin

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  35. Ronnie!

    Thank you so much for being here with me, with us!

    I knew there was someone else fearlessly on point for LRH. I have punished myself enough for not getting back in there to handle, not knowing what was really needed.

    I saw something when we met that I wanted to hold on to.

    OT perceptions and awesome affinity. Thank you so much for sharing!

    Your eloquent observations are superb and based on LRH Tech which are what is most needed and wanted in our battle to keep Scientology Working.

    I plan to sell this house ASAP; I am a target here being alone, my home is damaged consistently to cause me to sell for no profit.

    I’ll copy and paste your data to as many others I can starting with Aida Thomas in LA and Pierre Ethier and others abroad.

    Email or, call 727-470-6917.

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