David Miscavige Killed Lisa McPherson

Mike Rinder wrote the following to clarify some comments he made about Lisa McPherson in his Village Voice interview.  I then wrote my own post below that which expands upon Mike’s and connects some dots and which lead to the carefully chosen words that constitute the title of this article. 

Mike’s Post:

I left some in mystery concerning Lisa McPherson.  I told Tony Ortega that I had not known Miscavige had C/Sed her to attest to Clear (just a couple of months before she became psychotic) until after I had left the Sea Org, in spite of working on the criminal and civil case for 4 years. This has led to a number of questions and speculation about the significance of this.

I did not explain my view that it was not that his squirrel C/Sing killed her (and it WAS squirrel – Lisa McPherson was certainly nowhere approaching the state of Clear), it was the fact that Miscavige himself had been personally involved in supervising her case. That set in motion a chain of catastrophic decisions based on the concern that “to not handle her would be regarded as an effort to make COB wrong.”

So, when Lisa was brought to the Fort Harrison and in violation of VERY specific directives never to have a Type III at Flag, and in violation of the C/S Series, the Snr CS FSO, Alain Kartuzinski went and personally visited Lisa to try to calm her down and reassure her that he would ensure everything was OK.  I could never understand his blatant violation of the CS Series and the Introspection Rundown references, nor the Base Flag Orders from LRH.  From there, the unusual solutions and handlings snowballed as the unusual solutions kept adding to the craziness – she should not have been there, but then they tried to deliver a non-standard “Introspection Rundown” (squirreled in MANY ways) and as it was not producing any result, they kept on hoping.  Lisa should have been in some location where she could have gotten non-invasive help with medical practitioners available (she DID die of a pulmonary embolism – it happens all the time in hospitals with doctors on call – so it is not certain that medical attention would have saved her life, but there is a better chance of it than in a hotel room at the Fort Harrison with people terrified of calling in a doctor for fear of consequences).

But the craziness started with Alain – who had been being berated by Miscavige for being “incompetent” for not having “correctly CSed Lisa” and so Miscavige had “stepped in to put things right” and ordered that she attest to Clear. A month or so later she underwent her FIRST Introspection Rundown at Flag with some apparent success.  That too was a factor in Alain’s decisionmaking.

I do not believe any of the people who were involved with Lisa McPherson were doing anything other than trying to help her. I do think the stupid decisions that were made stemmed primarily from Miscavige’s involvement in her case earlier, setting the stage for unusual, out tech “solutions” that were implemented. Things I never understood, until I realized afterwards what had happened.

Marty’s post:

The following did not become clear to me until I had spent another twelve years handling “Clear” case sort outs both in and outside the church.  In the early 2000’s I handled a number of cases who had some level of uncertainty as to their own achievement of the state of Clear.   If one understands the St Hill Special Briefing Course (SHSBC) and one understands further L Ron Hubbard clarifications and developments with respect to the state of Clear after the SHSBC (Dianetic Clear Special Intensive – DCSI – and Clear Certainty Rundown – CCRD), there is no more simple cycle of action in the universe than sorting out whether an individual is Clear or not.  Because I was working on little else than the recovery and Bridge progress of Tom Cruise and the Lisa McPherson civil cases between 2001 and 2004 when I left the church of Scientology, I had zero exposure to what Miscavige was busily implanting across the Scientology world: the utter complication of Clear certainty procedure for the purposes of caving people in and controlling the resulting wreckage to extract money.  That became, for a lack of a better word, crystal clear only after I left and dealt with a number of people who had been subjected to Miscavige’s Black Dianetics Clear Invalidation rundown – BDCI.

Scientology is predicated upon infinity logic, which holds that absolutes are unobtainable.  The closest thing to an absolute in Scientology in my view is the state of Clear.  L Ron Hubbard notes in the CCRD material that the meter phenomena that accompanies the statement of the state by a Clear is UNMISTAKABLE.  And anyone who has audited it honestly can attest that is about the most absolutely accurate thing L Ron Hubbard ever wrote.

About the second most absolute datum that Hubbard ever laid down was that ONE DOES NOT AUDIT A CLEAR ON DIANETICS OF ANY KIND.   If one truly understands the technology, the mind, and theta (spiritual elan vital) one knows that to violate that injunction could have devastatingly destructive implications for the spiritual and mental well-being of the recipient.

All of this is all the more acute for a public who is being handled by the very top, cream of the crop “A” team at the Mecca of Technical Perfection (Flag).  Put that statement on steroids when the Pope himself is directly controlling every aspect of it.  The point being, in the mind of the public there is no question that this is the very last resort.  That mindset is, “if I am fucked up after this, then I am fucked up for good, forever.” 

Lisa Mcpherson was fed the Clear cognition (that realization that – given it is accompanied by the UNMISTAKABLE meter phenomena mentioned above – signifies a person has honestly made it to Clear) many years before David Miscavige bypassed the entire international tech hierarchy to personally write a lengthy C/S directly to Lisa.  Anybody knows that when a clear cog feeding occurs (and the pc is extremely obsessed with obtaining the culturual status that comes with being declared Clear), C/Ses and and auditors have got to be extremely competent and wise in navigating the individual to the actual accomplishment of the state of Clear. The Miscavige C/S informed Lisa McPherson in essence that every other C/S and every other auditor she’d dealt with for the past ten years was criminal and out tech and only he, David Miscavige the Pope himself, understood that she in fact was Clear. 

Not surprisingly, within weeks Lisa had a psychotic break and was at the Fort Harrison receiving an Introspection Rundown in the summer of 1995.  I say not surprisingly, since Lisa had to know something was very not right – the apex of the spiritual freedom she sought for years turned out to be the same old same whatever had been going with her mind all along. With an Introspection Rundown administered by Flag technical staff – without Miscavige micro-managed intervention – Lisa came out of it and began to live life and produce fairly well for a while.

Until, David Miscavige imposed a months long onslaught of desperate, out-tech auditing programs.  Those programs were enforced by his unquestioning, and all-powerful, RTC representative at the Flag Land base.  Lisa’s auditor was the Snr C/S Flag (Alain Kartusinski), and so again, there was no question in her mind that her mind was in the hands of those who were her last resort.  Lisa received months of aggressive Miscavige C/S’s most dealing with evil purposes and heavy listing – violating the C/S Series injunction against swinging for the fences (going for home runs rather than working on a gradient, the latter being most important particularly with an over-restimulated case).  Miscavige enforced False Purpose Rundown and even Expanded Dianetics, and to top it off listing on top of listing.   And all the while Lisa was left to struggle through it thinking, “this is what I spent my entire adult life pursuing, Clear.”

That Lisa McPherson went insane during this ordeal should be no surprise to tech trained people.  Her auditor, Alain, with zero control over this programming and C/Sing, had been reduced to propitiating to Lisa to keep her in affinity with him as auditor. He spent more time out of session commiserating with her than in session auditing her.

And there is the context in which to evaluate Mike’s mention above that there was no introspection rundown ever delivered to Lisa McPherson during her second, and final, tragic psychotic break.  It was the desperate leading the desperate.  To complicate matters, the RTC Representative ordered that Lisa be held on the Flag Land Base, based on precedent set by Miscavige having ordered earlier Flag publics who had had psychotic breaks to be similarly held, and to be directly supervised by the RTC Represenative.  To complicate matters further, the RTC Representative was in a complete prison cell of Miscavige’s own construction.  To report to Miscavige that his C/Sing and programming had resulted in a psychotic break would have been suicide for her and worse. So, now everyone involved in the handling of Lisa’s psychotic break were simply hoping she’d come out of it with doting care and love – and all the while trying to keep the episode quiet.  To complicate matters even further, when it was apparent that Lisa was deteriorating physically the RTC representative and Alain in their horrific fear of Miscavige vengeance, began rationalizing and justifying that Lisa was “calming down.”   And Lisa wound up calming down all right, she calmed down to death.

L Ron Hubbard was not joking around in the fifties when he warned about the specter of the potential use of Black Dianetics. 

With 20/20 hindsight it is becoming more clear to me now.

Lisa McPherson was killed at the Flag Land Base.

David Miscavige killed Lisa McPherson.

David Miscavige has been doing little else since than attempting to prove himself right by imposing on all Scientologists that which he already imposed on Lisa McPherson.

-    Marty Rathbun

364 responses to “David Miscavige Killed Lisa McPherson

  1. What I have noticed is one for one those who did not get trained be it auditor training, admin training or ethics training and just got the auditing ended up and are still ending up unstable. There is just no foundation from which to build any stability.To hold a position, in my opinion comes from training. I know of several families who are falling apart. Their answer…here audit my child. Well hello… what about using some ethics or pts tech. In looking back there were many “bigtime” (considered) FMS who would go after the money and the money was in the auditing not the training and look at that result!

    • Tony Dephillips

      Makes sense Carol.

    • It doesn’t take much to make this observation. LRH himself even says it, over and again: Training is the key to stability on the Bridge.

      KSW #1. The first time I read it, I walked around the Org and realized that every single weirdo giving Scientology a bad name just wasn’t trained. The Auditors who were training and auditing were the most stable, brilliant people I have ever known – the admin terminals sitting in the reg office trying to get someone to sell their house so they could pay for something that reg had no f’in clue about – these guys were the ones causing all the trouble.

      Its really true: the training side of the Bridge is where you get certainty, stability, and know that you can Handle Life.

  2. Mike and Marty,
    I am agog.
    It is true.
    I know this.
    I experienced the very frightening effects of being told not Clear, after being told Clear in both a standard DCSI in 1981 and CCRD in 2004 at ASHO, and having Black Dianetics forced upon me.
    The obvious reads on the CCRD were felt and understood by me, being a competent Solo I auditor. The persistent F/n and then, Floating TA, which resulted from this utterly SIMPLE procedure, made me believe, “We should never have to revisit this subject again or make me doubt i’ve reached it”.
    After 20 intensives of bullshit to keep me off the Bridge and never make it onto the OT levels after trying to get on for 3 decades, I am now here.
    I can’t wait to read your book, Marty.
    What you have written here is murder and horrible. It never should have happened to that poor girl.
    I look forward to doing the real OT levels in the Independent field, under competent C/Sing.

  3. Mike/Marty, as you may recall, Lisa was a friend of mine from Dallas days, and she called me weeks or a month or two before her death, to apologize and get back in touch for her disconnection from me, spurred on by Benetta Slaughter. I was neither declared or in bad standing, but I was out of favor. I can visualize her in the FH, frantic, over the edge, and Flag staff trying to shut her up so that this did not Flap on DMs lines … i can so see that.

    Also, in the 80’s I considered Alain a friend, but no contact other than passing hellos when I became public at Flag in the 90s.

    This comes to another point, where does “following orders” and “victim” start and stop, versus personal responsibility. That there are Flag policies that no one type III can get help there, or anyone that could go into that range is not allowed on base is both inhuman, and an admission that not everyone can be helped by their application of the tech.

    Biggi Reichart.

    Where does personal responsibility start? How is self preservation in any way superior to doing the right thing? How much of a free lunch should people be allowed for following orders? Who is the victim, who is the criminal, who is responsible?

    In the real world, especially with first class moral companies and major corporations such as J&J, the head considers themselves responsible for the actions of the group, they are responsible for the culture that dictates the actions. DM himself has put himself here but tries to make the problems dissapear. But what about the people in the middle, those that hurt others on orders, or for self preservation … where is their responsibility in this grey morass? I have been out for a decade, I still battle with this almost daily.

    • Mike, those are brave, essential and hard questions. I think these same thoughts.
      A madman needs followers to cause harm. I think that is what Marty’s blog is, in part.
      People once on the dark side and now on the light.
      The song Amazing Grace was written by a slave ship owner.
      The people on this site have moved out of the darkness.
      But sometimes the specter of shadows trail those who have been saved.
      Hopefully, these crimes and confessions will bring peace and justice to those harmed.

      • Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
        That saved a wretch like me….
        I once was lost but now am found,
        Was blind, but now, I see.

        T’was Grace that taught…
        my heart to fear.
        And Grace, my fears relieved.
        How precious did that Grace appear…
        the hour I first believed.

        Through many dangers, toils and snares…
        we have already come.
        T’was Grace that brought us safe thus far…
        and Grace will lead us home.

        The Lord has promised good to me…
        His word my hope secures.
        He will my shield and portion be…
        as long as life endures.

        When we’ve been here ten thousand years…
        bright shining as the sun.
        We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise…
        then when we’ve first begun.

        Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
        That saved a wretch like me….
        I once was lost but now am found,
        Was blind, but now, I see.

    • Interesting question re responsibility. They’re all responsible for their actions. The difference is that some know it and others don’t. I think a lot lies in the area of personal integrity, Some have it and refuse to go along with DM so they leave. Others don’t have much and go along just to get along. And then some are just plain degraded beings.
      I think it’s to the point where the degraded beings are about all that’s left in that cult. To align themselves with Miscavige could they be anything else? They’re still responsible but don’t know it. They’re too degraded.

      • Pat I would have to say I agree. Hell we were both Top FSMs and saw it and could not sell it because we would not buy it and we walked!

      • Broken pieces, dm´s end product.

      • Pat,
        I know people still there that are wonderful people. They just have not yet been exposed to the truth.

        • Exposed to the truth? All they have to do is look. The truth is right there in front of them. I saw it in 1998 and I walked away. There was no blog and no major articles to refer to.
          There comes a point where the reasonableness has to end.

          • Is that when you got into Scientology, in 1998? I’m assuming that you started then because you say that’s when you left. If not, I guess you were being reasonable in greater or lesser degree.

        • If they are there they have been exposed to the truth, everyday. this is just being reasonable. Personal Integrity is out!

          • We are all guilty of that to some degree. But, what’s the point.

            • that is the point…gawd! Sounds to me like you have a blind spot in that area.

              • Carol. Lets leave judgement alone. The point is no one walks away the first or second time something doesnt seem right. It takes time and usually something personal. And the more committed the person, that too often added years to their personal runway. Fortunately, its getting harder for the cult to keep its members insulated.
                People are waking up every day and walking away. Thats all thats important. In the end everyone has to face what happened within themselves and deal with it. No one escapes that judgement. Our job is to keep the communication lines open and information flowing.

    • Michael — I research the “flag policies” regarding Type III and illegal PCs and there is NO policy regarding Type III — rather an advice from “R” which said that people who were Type III should NOT be in the lobby of the Fort Harrison as a one or two Type IIIs were being “watched” in the lobby with watchers.

      Not conducive to anyone’s mental well being.

      This THEN became — anyone who had EVER gone TYPE III could NEVER set foot again at the Flag Land Base.

      Which I personally do not believe was LRH’s intention. He issued a telex (advice) to handle a particular situation — it became a mandate.

      Illegal PCs IS a policy but its very specific as to what constitutes an illegal PC and because of an inability of those on tech lines in RTC to duplicate — illegal PC and the Type III advice have become collapsed into ONE mandate. An Illegal PC is able to train and should be allowed on Flag lines.

      HOWEVER, the last time I research the archives and whatever those files were called (can’t remember — housed in the CB) — was mid 80’s — before I had my break. Perhaps there is LRH policy I’m unaware of.

      But I doubt it.

      In other words, what you said about no one who was in bad shape, Type III could never receive help — wasn’t true from LRH — but became true from dm.


      • There are two Base Flag Orders written by LRH that forbid any Type IIIs at Flag.

        • martyrathbun09

          But I think her recollect is pretty accurate. It was a mention like she noted, to the effect of, if some guy comes marching in off the street talking about martians he doesn’t check in. It was not: should a Flag public have a psychotic break bar the door.

          • I agree with Marty. I’d have to see these BFOs and in a new unit of time. A mention and for the person who is on the “martian” watch, that’s one thing, but the Introspection RD exists as a powerful piece of tech and it makes NO sense that it wouldn’t be used for someone who experiences a break while on lines. It’s sort of like the Suppressed Person RD material, IF “disconnection” was to enforced then how the heck can you get the full EP of that RD when the person is supposed to have a positive comm from the terminal? You can’t, so it makes no sense to enforce disconnection.

      • Thanks Mike — I only saw the “R” advices.

        Forbid FOREVER? — ie — even once no longer Type III?

        In which case, I agree with Mike Laws comment above — quite a finite judgement.


    • mike, if you have time, take a look at South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Committee, but essentially was a process for people living under the Apartheid regime to tell their story and go some way in getting to the truth of what happened.

  4. It would be interesting to see the list of Clears and various other completions (from Purif to Objectives, Grades, NED, various pre-OT levels) pronounced at Flag in the last ten years and see what percentage had previously attested to those actions. Flag is one giant trap.

  5. plainoldthetan

    Marty: good for stepping in and helping shine some light on this disgusting chapter in the RCS timeline.

  6. OMG!
    Truth is such a sticky thing – you just can’t wash it off. No matter how you you mask it – it just sits there.
    The end of miscaviges reign will be one hell of a cause for celebration – it will probably be the most profound de PTSing in the history of this planet.
    Bring on the sunshine…

  7. Mr. David Miscavige has apparently cancelled C/S Series 1, “Auditor’s Rights” – and auditors, apparently, have stopped following it. This is such a basic thing – it goes back as far as Scientology and Dianetics have been extant.

    I just re-read it. Let’s just run it down:

    1. Auditors have a right to not accept a PC if they feel they cannot help a PC.
    2. Auditors have a right to reject a C/S (session instructions) if they feel it won’t help the PC.
    3. Auditors must not audit from a stale-dated (old) C/S. Things change.
    4. Auditors have the right to end session whenever they want to.
    5. Auditors must NEVER audit over out-Ruds (Rudiments – things that must be in place before a session can start. In this case, the PC is upset, has a problem, has a withhold that was missed. If a PC’s attention is elsewhere, auditing cannot occur).
    6. Auditors are justified in attempting to repair a PC whose ruds will not go in.
    7. Auditors should not schedule sessions too far apart.
    8. Auditors must not run things that DO NOT READ on a meter, EVEN IF C/S (or COB) tells them too.
    9. Auditors MUST NOT LIST an unreading list question. This also on the laws of listing an nulling. Pretty cussing basic.
    10. If trouble happens during listing, the Auditor is expected to repair it.

    I quote: “As it is very hard on pc to mess up a list, it is expected the auditor will handle the situation then and there with no further C/S directions.”

    11. Auditors must not audit over high TA, and MUST NOT fly ruds or run Dianetics, but must remedy as noted in the HCOB.
    12. Auditors must not “go on hoping”. Don’t throw shit at the pc hoping something sticks, but find out what is happening, and C/S for it. “An auditor does NOT [emphasis in the original] let a C/S C/S hopefully. He refuses the C/Ss until a Folder Error Summary is done and the bug found.”
    13. Auditors don’t let things be run twice – engram chains, major rundowns.
    14. Auditors do not copy session worksheets, but use originals always.
    15. Auditors need to know when ruds go out in session and how to handle.
    16. If a pc tells him that his case is not handled, the auditor should end off session and take it back to the C/S
    17. Auditors must not run a major action on a pc who is not set up for it.
    18. Auditors should reject a C/S that is counter to the pc’s program.
    19. Auditors must not interrupt a major action and do something else, but complete the major action.
    20. Auditors must NOTICE that a pc reached the End Phenomena or ability attained of the major action, and get it acknowledged – do not robotically go on because there are more things on the program.
    21. Auditors should not repair a pc who does not need repairing.
    22. Auditors must NEVER false report (lie) on worksheets.

    “INTEGRITY is a hallmark of Dianetics and Scientology” – Emphasis in the original.

    “INTEGRITY is a hallmark of Dianetics and Scientology.” – I grew up with this, people.

    23.Auditors should keep themselves cleaned up with regard to their pcs – they should get off any overts they may have against them.

    24. Auditors don’t have cases. An auditor must not run away from a pc just because HE (the auditor) is queasy about what the pc did or had done to him, or if it hits too close to home.

    THIS is why we have TR0 Bullbait, by the way. It is not there to ridicule people or to make them tractable or some such nonsense spouted by Scientology haters, but to get someone able to confront anything that sits in front of them so they can GET THE GUY THROUGH IT.

    “If breath shows on a mirror held to his face, he can audit.”

    There have been times when I went into a session with just a little bit of breath showing…

    25. Auditors have a right to know what they did wrong. Exactly. Not “YSCOHB!!!”.

    This is C/S Series 1. The first one of the series. The basic. If it weren’t so damn long you should memorize it. I violated this in my FIRST session as an auditor, and learned to love it.

    I put all this in here because LOOK AT WHAT THE CUSS HAPPENED IN LISA Mc Pherson’s CASE!

    I don’t doubt the genuineness and caring of the people who were working with Lisa, but BY GOD the people involved abdicated their positions as Scientologists – from COB on down.

    • It was David Mayo who started the
      That was Mayo OT Preps in the 80’s

      • When I started up the bridge there was no such thing as checking for interest on an item. Of course the P.C. was interested in getting auditing or they wouldn’t be paying for it! I am not trained myself, but the idea of introducing questions about the interest of a P.C. seems like introducing Q and A to me. A person’s tone level might not be to interest. Then what?
        It’s like asking the P.C. to run part of the session or C/S it from his own point of interest. Iran all the lists whether they read or not and I am assuming they all read. Because I had something to say about it all.

        • There’s nothing wrong with checking interest on an item provided you are running Standard Tech. You can bet a PC will be very interested in any LFBD item, that’s for sure!

    • When Richard and I were routing out of the SO back in 2004, we were told to stay in the Qual area in the Sandcastle while waiting for our Sec-Checks. One day, Ted Palmer showed up to do a cram (he was an AO NOTs auditor at the time). He needed to be checked out on Auditor’s Rights and he asked me if I would check him out on it. During the check-out, he sat back and said that THIS is THE bulletin he needed to have on hand so what happened would never happen again. Then he told me that he had been doing a six-month sec check on a person on OT VII and she finished up pretty quickly. He ended session and sent her to the examiner, thinking all was well. Then he got an order to take her back into session, which at first he refused to do, but he finally gave in and took her back into session to disastrous results. He told me that it was a senior exec who ordered him to take her back in session, because it was Thursday and they needed this to happen to make sure the stat was up (I don’t know if it was for money or hours, maybe both). He was so mad at himself for finally agreeing to take her back into session and swore to himself that he would never do that again. I think he said he was going to carry that bulletin around in his back pocket from then on.
      A couple years later, I heard from a friend that Ted Palmer was no longer working as an auditor and was then on the post of Advanced Letter Reg, if I remember correctly. Just recently, I was told by another friend who lives in CW that Ted is off post (still in SO) at some rehab center or something because he has a brain tumor! Aaaarrrrggggghhhh!!!

    • Grasshopper,
      This and your post above acknowledging the positive cram you got from Karen are both superb posts. Really superb. Thank you for them and for being an auditor.

      • Thanks, Jim – that means a lot coming from someone I respect greatly.

        Actually, rereading C/S Series 1 was a rehab for me. I remember when I decided NOT to be an auditor for a living, and it was when DM did two things: Make it a “supressive act” for an auditor to miss a withhold, and make it a requirement for auditors to write “non-actionable” KRs on the withholds pc’s got off in session. Actually, the latter is a violation of the Auditor’s code, and the former is a violation of form of the org – it is qual’s job to do corrections, not HCO’s (or the CMO, for that matter).

        But now, hell. I’ll need to figure out how to get my old Mark VI back to battery (Bob Grant, do you still remember how to clean movements? :) ).

    • ‘Auditor’s Rights’ is not included in Scientology 0-8, The Book of Basics, but there are 12, yes 12, Auditor’s Codes.

  8. This event is an horror story.
    I beyond belief that someone that is dying is NOT immediately taken to an hospital for a proper physical treatment.
    Of course the spiritual aspect is much more important, but the person MUST be treated first.
    She trusted the persons that were taking care of her?
    Was she in a position of deciding that?
    Not at all!
    Of course the level of PTSness of the people that carried on the action because of the fear of consequences of Miscavige wrath is beyond any rationale.
    But the horror story is GOING ON NOW.
    Is STILL in full action.
    There are OTs and Clears that are subjected to REVERSE DIANETICS now.
    People are dying NOW!
    And still is the fear of consequences of Miscavige wrath that is used as a leverage to get others to act in an insane manner- people are in fear to loose their eternity – for this they are giving up their integrity and their life.
    The blanket C/Sing is the tool of the trade!
    The assasination is serial!
    David Miscavige is using Black Dianetics now and is a SERIAL KILLER.
    Is time the situation is seen in its real perspective and this post is making this happening.

    • I guess they waited for someone to give them orders to take her to the hospital. That is how low it becomes in that group. You don’t make decisions based on common sense. You don’t make decisions, you let others make them for you. That in itself is a form of no responsibility.

    • miscavigeisscaredofsam

      I’m extremely busy and pressed for time today. I was trying to get my swirling thoughts into order and onto the page…
      You saved me a lot of time. Thanks :)

  9. Wake up Tom Cruise, your BEST FRIEND is a killer machine!

  10. FormerlyFooled

    Marty, you wrote “Lisa McPherson was killed at the Flag Land Base.” Are you saying ths is where she died?

    Mike Rider said in 1997 during an interview with the German media, that “she died in a hotel room” ( which Abelson confirmed in the interview) but which he later denied, saying it was misconstrued ( and that she had died on the way to the hospital as the church stated?)


    This contradiction was discussed in the news
    When did she die?
    By THOMAS C. TOBIN St. Petersburg Times, published May 9, 1997

    CLEARWATER — Was it an honest mistake, a slip of the tongue? Or was it the naked truth, carelessly uttered on camera

    A top official for the Church of Scientology told a German television crew recently that church member Lisa McPherson died in a room at the Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater.

    On its face, the statement marks a major change in Scientology’s version of events surrounding McPherson’s unexplained death at age 36. It came in the presence of one of the church’s top lawyers, who agreed with it on camera.

    The new Scientology statement would mean McPherson was already dead when other Scientologists put her in a van and took her to a distant hospital — a profound departure from what church officials have said previously about the case.

    Mike Rinder, the Scientology official who made the remark, said this week it is being misconstrued. He added that the church’s account has not changed…….

  11. eileen110clark

    This was sickening to read, but needed to be written. Marty and Mike you both have such courage.

    btw, this is from me, have just changed to a wordpress account.

  12. retiredfromthechurch

    It should be made known on this blog the part Bennetta Slaughter played in the murder of her best reg.
    She could have just as easily cared for her in her vast personal lodgings.

  13. This situation that unfolded with DM acting as a C/S is telling of the sheepish nature of Sea Org Staff and the conflicts in existing policy. Because DM is higher on the Org Board, everyone must obey without question. So, nobody asks him if he has even done a C/S course. My understanding if that he trained through class lV but never even did a class lV internship. So, he walks into the C/S office and begins to bark orders. Everyone obeys, whether the guy is even a trained C/S.

    There you have it. That is a situation.

  14. Marty,
    this doesn’t need to be posted if you prefer that it isn’t.
    I’m newly independent and I wonder if having a large demonstration outside the Int base has ever been discussed. Something that would include Independents, non-Scientologists, anyone who is against the cult. If properly organized (no, I’m not volunteering, just speculating) could that have any kind of significant affect, what with media being notified etc?

  15. He is a F***ing criminal and should be in jail.

  16. Tom Gallagher

    David Miscavige is the ‘Ted Bundy’ of cult leaders: Death abounds.

    Isn’t the infallible sociopathic pope’s real stat straight up and vertical?

  17. akismet-9a52a74b0acb334aca0db18bf581530f

    Thank you for posting this. For years I have known that this tragedy was due to out tech. I am glad that you have confirmed this

  18. That last line blew me away man:

    “David Miscavige has been doing little else since than attempting to prove himself right by imposing on all Scientologists that which he already imposed on Lisa McPherson.”.

    That really seems like truth to me. It explains a lot.

  19. Richard Royce

    I have been reading “My Big Toe” (my theory of everything), By Thomas Campbell and he makes the point that in the physical universe only the action, for what ever reason or intention, is the important thing. This is where we get the idea that “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”. When you are talking about survival of the life form or species the only thing that matters is you or your progeny beat the opponent and survive. You could beat out your opponent for greed, avarice, just the good old evil intention to harm him for your own sexual thrill or other sensation. What matters is did you beat him? This is the way the MEST universe works. Your genes get to multiply and your team gets to procreate.

    The totally opposite is true of the Theta universe. There, we are doing a totally different thing. We are evolving spiritually. We are becoming more conscious and we are becoming more able. In this universe intention is everything. We are evolving to a higher state, the highest being unconditional love.

    I have been trying to come to grips with the disconnection of my three sons, Conan, Jamie and Devin. Have I made the right choice, opening my mouth about what I perceive to be injustice and the hijacking of the Church by someone who is destroying the gift LRH gave to mankind? If I had just shut up and kept to myself my disagreements I would still have the pleasure of playing with my grandson Khaelen Beau, Devin and Nadine, of visiting with Conan and Suzi and have the very occasional visit and phone calls from my Sea Org Son Jamie.

    My major thrust besides art this lifetime has been the increasing of my consciousness. I gave up a career in medicine to follow the non renumerative path of art (a consiciousness activity) and when I found Scientology I added that path to my life.

    A key aid to spiritual growth in Scientology is the Code of Honor. “Your integrity is more important than your life” was always one of the points that I thought , “well that’s pretty cool” but…

    Today I really got the above point on the code. Your life is the MEST universe. LRH clearly pointed out that your intentions are more important than your life. Your spiritual growth is more important than what happen here on Earth.

    The reason I decided to stand tall and be counted as an Indi is because I realized that if I buckled and did the A to E I would perhaps have been able to get the goodies of this life, meaning have the children in my life, but in the long run I would have been doing enormous harm to them by condoning what I have come to see as EVIL. When the kids finally come to their senses and see the Out Tech, Injustice, Squirrel Policy, Distruction of what LRH spent his life putting there to free mankind and putting in it’s place slavery, my kids would look on me as a collaborator as in the after 2ww period in France. They would look on me with derision: as the coward I would have been, as the assister, the enabler, to the arch suppressive of this day in our group.

    By taking my stand I am living LRH’s code of honor point: that my integrity is more important than my life! By holding my position on the ramparts I am not enabling my boys to continue their slavery. Perhaps they will question how could their parents whom they have known their whole life to be of good will, how could they hold that position now? Could there be something I should look at? That is my hope.
    In any case I know I have become more conscious in the process.

    • Absolutely beautiful, Richard. That’s a pass, my friend. You’ve made it.

    • Richard,
      Thank you for your honorable intention and action.

      Jim Logan

    • Holy Cow, Richard, that is one impressive statement. So true.

    • Li'll bit of stuff

      Richard, superb example of the ” right thing to do ”
      As Ronnie says, in his reply above, ..”.That’s a pass
      my friend….” And just as sure as night follows day
      (and I tried to reassure Ronnie, replying to a recent
      disconnection by a close family member,) the old
      wheel will surely turn, when the proverbial “shit hits
      the fan” for these blinkered next of kin, as the
      runaway Miscavige Express train of Destruction
      unexpectedly slams into their stable data and
      finally shatters their delusions.

      Patience, good folk, you will be rewarded for it, by
      the return to normality of your brethren.


    • Often we humans have the weakness to look at a too small time frame. The present time seems to be so important or even overwhelming, and the future looks so far away.

      But sticking to the RIGHT decisions in present time is what gives form and life to the future – for yourself as well as for others. Because strong postulates will create effects beyond your first dynamic.

    • Tony DePhillips

      You and your wife are people of honor.

      I know you are doing the right thing.

      Your kids may or may not recognize your courage and integrity now, but they will. I recall my Mom telling me that Miscavige had “little mans syndrome” she was trying to get me to see the outpoints in the “church”. I blew her off. I thought that she didn’t know what she was talking about.
      Well, now I know she was right. My Mom died a few years ago while I was still in. She was a righteous lady. Your kids will get it eventually and they will see you for who you truly are.

  20. Freedom Fighter

    Wow, wow!! Holy shit, wow!!! This completely sorted out a piece of the timetrack for me. I went Clear on the NED DRD years ago and it went unacknowledged despite 2 CCRDs. I then requested FPRD because of the cog I’d had on the NED DRD because I wanted to prevent things from happening again (those of you who are Clear know what I’m talking about). Mid the FPRD, I started having some physical problems (duh) and was then run on more NED to handle it. I spun in and I REALLY started having some physical issued that later ended me up in surgery. After the physical stuff really kicked in, I got even more NED (brother!). I finally decided I’d had enough and got out, but the damage had already been done. I did finally get my Clear state acknowledged after I got out, but this post helped unravel the events preceding that. Whew!!

  21. I knew Lisa McPherson well. We both started in 1991 at AMC Publishing, owned at that time by Jeff Schaffner & Bennetta/David Slaughter. We were kindred spirits, both in Div 6 at the org in Dallas — She was the PCS and I was her junior.

    So we worked together selling all day long, then worked the foundation shift at the org. Every night we would do Upper Indoc TRs — look at the wall, walk over to that wall, touch that wall, turn around — until we both became known as the ‘girls that could make a gorilla lay down their fire arms in the middle of the Interstate freeway.’

    Lisa was my son’s god-mother. So I know this being extremely well. She was quite a talented sales person and we both together made a kick-ass team at the org — we would go out and body-route folks into the org, sell books, had the highest ever in BIS for Div 6 — We were kicking some major butt and the org has never done better than during this time frame.

    In December 1993, we all moved to CW. Bennetta presented the game to us for us all to get onto OT 7. We were all in the Clear area, so it became a wonderful game to play. I was over the moon to be on 7, so I played like a crazy woman making more $$ than anyone in the company, as I really wanted it.

    That Christmas, 1993, 14 of us packed up everything we owned, our husbands/spouses quit their jobs and we all moved to CW. Of course, Flag was excited and Bennetta had put $$ on account for all of us so that she would have a tether on us w/regards to owning us. And trust me, she did a fabulous job of that.

    Lisa was particularly in like tight with Bennetta. But when we got to CW, the game @ AMC changed, as there was a larger pool of Scn for sales reps than there was in Dallas. She pretty much had the creme of the crop there, but 4 months after we arrived, Bennetta put out a policy to lower our commission from 15% to 10%.

    The core group of sales reps were Lisa, Brenda Hubert Spencer and me. We had all had shit-fit as this was penalizing upstats among many other infractions — and negated some of the promises to get us to CW.

    That was the beginning of the demise. I protested like no one else — just would not let up, all the while, not one of us ever had a moment to even think about getting on course or getting any auditing. It was a very fucked up policy that Bennetta Slaughter ran on us.

    She was a slave driver in all sense of the word — and yes, the ONLY policy that she used religiously was conditions. We wrote condition and o/w’s on everything from why the wind blew from the north. It was insane, that we all just kept a template saved in our computer, so that we could just whip out the condition write-up for whatever crazy-ass thing she asked for.

    So yes, Bennetta had Lisa writing o/w’s all the while she would be receiving auditing and Lisa began to slip like crazy away from the insouciant being that I had always known and loved.

    Bennetta Slaughter is back of all this. She was always meddling or trying to meddle in all our auditing actions — offering her know-best viewpoint, but I was always the bull in the china cabinet, and I was the one that marched my butt into Sonja Jacques at Flag and demanded that the $$ that Bennetta had put on account for me, be removed and put back on the AMC account.

    I never had a moment to use any of it, never was sessionable, never had a minute to wash my other pair of panties, so I certainly did not need $20K or more sitting there, with the expectation that every pay day I was to pay back some of it — that was b.s.

    So, just know, that the full story of the involvement of Bennetta Slaughter in all of this Lisa debacle has yet to be made known. I was the first to leave the rat’s nest at AMC Publishing, and was not there in December 1995 when Lisa dropped her body.

    She was a very talented being — much loved by all, great advocate of LRH and just wanted more than anything, for everyone to love her. She sought that love from Bennetta, but Bennetta turned (or was from the start) traitor in her.

    As time rolls along, more will come out…. my 2 cents for now.

    • Thank you, Kay. Very revealing.
      I can well imagine how you felt on hearing the news about Lisa, and the trickle of stories coming out later. My heart goes to you, Kay.

    • Richard Royce

      Another what the F? Running someone on OWs while they are in the middle of auditing actions is mixing rundowns. Am I correct this is gross out tech!

    • Holy smokes Kay !! Your viewpoint carries a lot of significance about this whole story.

      It seems Lisa was a good pal and a good person and that you knew her quite well. That is valuable and appreciated to you for speaking out! It’s often perceived, and perpetuated in some circles that Lisa was wacho-psycho to begin with. I appreciate your humanizing her, very very theta.

      Please do not be afraid to say more Kay, I for one love details, and enjoyed your comments immensely so far.

    • Thank you Kay.

      Confirms the opinion I formed when I first met Bennetta — The Queen of Self-Absorbtion from the Land of the Ice Queens.


    • Kay,
      You are still a kick ass kind of gal. :)
      I saw Lisa and Bennetta at Flag a couple months before Lisa passed away. It was at the Sandcastle in the lobby area. Bennetta was bragging on Lisa (loudly) that she had attested to Clear. Lisa was loud too and IMO seemed a little manic or maybe electrified describes it better. Lisa came over to tell me she had always had a crush on my then husband and then they were off like little tornados. I remember thinking something seemed really wrong. Since it was just a gut feeling, I didn’t really feel I could say anything.
      We got the call in December that she had passed away. My ex-husband took the call. He told me she died in the ambulance and that it was a result of an earlier accident where a car hit her leg.

    • Tony DePhillips

      I like how you roll Kay.

  22. Excellent story Mark and Marty. Good to see it coming out and being discussed.

  23. Poor girl. Of all the stories this one about Lisa haunts me. I kind of feel her pain as I’ve been subjected, as a Clear, to much the same squirrel auditing in the past.

    I’m happy the rest of you made it out alive, I’m glad I made it out alive. Wherever Lisa is now, I hope she is happy.

  24. I’ve never heard of any report where miscavige personally showed pity or regret over Lisa McPherson’s death, like in an announcement or statement or even a remark that has been recorded. No sense of responsibility, or ‘The buck stops here’ attitude. Just ‘pay them off and shut them up.’ A creep playing at being a big shot.

    The contrast between himself and LRH could not be greater: where LRH was hardworking, productive and driven by compassion, miscavige is an ice-cold cynic.

    • I seem to recall him being quoted by the media as saying in regard to Lisa (paraphrased): “She died. People die all the time.”

      I’ll see if I can track down that quote.

    • Jethro Bodine

      Not only has Miscavige never once publicly apologized or showed any remorse for the death of Lisa McPherson, he even announced the winning of the McPherson criminal trial as an “IAS victory”. This is truly disturbing, all with applauding brainwashed and implanted clubbed seals and high rollers like the Feshbachs and Jensens on board the annual “Freewinds” convention, the floating asbestos-ridden prison ship. He never once even mentions Lisa’s name. Like I said, Miscavige belongs in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass penitentiary. Also notice how he tries to spin this as some kind of “SP conspiracy” against the “church”. He even tries to make himself look good. Disgusting when you now know the real facts behind the case thanks to the revelations from Mike and Marty.

      part 1:

      part 2:

  25. I don’t know if I’ve ever told anyone this story – but it fits right in with this subject. I was on the Apollo in the fall of 1973 and early spring of 1974. I was a volunteer working on a project to get the financial records in order. Marty Greenberg was my senior – Mary Sue was his senior.

    Anyway, we were working in the bow of the ship and one day one of the crew went Type III and he was isolated in a small cabin right next to the room where we were working. LRH was not kidding when he said that these people can scream for days. He screamed about CIA and FIRE! FIRE! incessantly. He was actually violent at times and I had to help crewmembers subdue him once. We also had strict orders not to say anything at all to this guy and basically to keep pretty quiet.

    As far as I know, LRH was directly c/sing this guy’s handling and this is where he developed the Introspection Rundown. The handling was just as it’s been described here – destimulation, quiet, food and vitamins and very
    gentle auditing

    It’s been a long time ago, so I don’t remember how long it took, but he
    finally came out of it. I saw him some time later in line at the snack bar and he seemed like he was a lot better.

    I saw in the OODS shortly after this that he had been sent home and LRH was furious! He said he was going to send the shrinks around the block with his handling of this case. Instead, those who were in charge of this guy sent him home without consulting with LRH. LRH’s comment was that in the old days, the HGC auditors would have had no trouble confronting a case like this!

  26. I was with Alain Kartuzinski for the last 3 years of his life as we were on the RPF together. He had gone through several twins but for the majority of his program he was twinned with Richard (Dick) Story and he got Alain all the way up to the 8th dynamic on the 1-8 FPRD form. Dick got reprieved (which is another outrageous story in itself) as the new Fort Harrison hotel was manned by and large by RPF’ers who got “reprieved”. But Dick didn’t go to the FH, he went to the AO to continue regging. I guess getting the to get an old-time top reg back was more important than following LRH policy…

    At that point Alain was completed on his RPF program by another OT on the RPF, Heather Crook, who took good care of Alain and audited him for HIM, not for what someone else wanted to get done.

    Alain had been on HEAVY blood pressure medication for many, many years and that’s why he was mainly doing his manual labor assignments at the Hacienda dealing with laundry instead of working at the Mill where most RPFers were assigned, as he had physical condition.

    After it was found out he had contracted cancer Heather Crook and the D/Snr C/S Crew, a “Mr. Webb” – don’t know his first name, but it wasn’t Tyler (Ty) Webb (who was his son) did from my observation a pretty good job of ending any and all open auditing actions on Alain, including any NOTS repair. When Alain was hospitalized Heather was approved to actually go to the medical center where Alain was and audited him right in his hospital room, despite security risks to take care of him as much as possible at that stage of his life.

    While undergoing chemo he contracted some sort of Pneumonia infection and because his immune system was shot by the chemo this was the actual cause of death. Before he passed away Heather managed to EP a confidential process for people who are about to kick the bucket and Alain communicated that he was calm and ready to go.

    When it was known that Alain had contracted cancer he was granted special liberties and was able to both visit and receive visits by his wife and son, as well as going on leave to visit his own family and parents (and other son) back in France. His wife was with him to the very end and stood by him in love and support daily throughout his entire illness period.

    When Alain had technically completed his own C/S’ed RPF program (but not yet taken another RPF member to completion) he petitioned to get reprieved and this was granted and during the last several months of his life he was technically not an actual RPFer but stayed at the Hacienda and graded Basics checksheets, more like a staff member, while being able to spend time with his wife as well as getting more medical attention than he could get as an RPFer.

    Alain certainly had a proper funeral service, attended by many FSO staff members, as well as his close family and there was an issue, at least distributed internally, which spoke very elquently about Alain.

    I got to work with Alain very closely throughout those 3 years and I both liked and appreciated him as a being. As he was on the RPF for “out tech” he, per FOs, could not be involved in the tech delivery on the RPF, but behind the scenes he was always there and helped debug cases and he helped me and my C/S many times to get my situation straightened out as he had very high personal reality on being “audited” based on what someone else wanted to hear instead of what the person itself had charge on.

    Though he never said it out straight, as he couldn’t if he were to have any chance of ever finishing or getting reprieved, we had many personal conversations about his story with the LMP case and it is my own opinion and view from seeing his eyes and getting his intention that he had, by the end, come to realize his own exact causation, what he did and didn’t do and the causation of others involved, including that of DM. Alain had no blame in his demeanor but he knew full well, though he had his own out-tech and integrity issues with the case, that he was set up as a scape goat to protect DMs involvement.

    When Alain left, there was no unresolved conflict in his mind and he had seen the truth for at least himself and he was content with this.

    He left in peace and he was loved by everyone in the RPF, the old-time FSO tech terminals and his family and he will only be remembered in very favorable terms by all those who dealt with him personally.

    I just wanted to provide a more detailed account of his last days to discredit any rumors that I have seen sprinkled across these comments.

    Love, Ulf

    • martyrathbun09

      Thanks a lot for this. I really appreciate it.

    • Firebreathing Frog

      Thank you so much for this write up.
      Sorry I didn’t see your post before posting above, but I understand now how responsible Alain was.
      Too sad to see good people go, while the real SP is still kicking.
      This entire Church is set up that no-one can apply LRH policies, as soon as Miscavige send a squirrel order.

      In Paris, we are told “he was OK when he left, cause he gave million dollars donation to the church.”
      (after more than 30 years as SO member).

      I am disgusted by this mentality.

      Thank again for taking the time to write.

      • Yes you’re right, fairly shortly before Alain passed away, his mother in France died and Alain inherited a very sizable sum of money. This was when Alain was still an RPFer and before he was reprieved.

        He was visited by many regges from the FSO and IAS and they were “approved” by the highest terminals over the RPF to see him because it was “for the IAS”, so yes, regging for the IAS has now elevated above L. Ron Hubbard policy.

        Alain was much disturbed by the incessant regging and finally donated a very large sum. We were never told how much, but we know it was very large.

        • Ulf — truly the “Vulture Culture” in all its splendor…

          • It was very sad to behold, especially when the RPF I/C (Snr Qual Sec HFA – Janis Scott) talking excitingly about backing up Alain to the rest of the RPF (so he would agree) and of course getting her own commission. The prior RPF I/C (Paul Kempff) was busted after I wrote numerous KRs on him condoning regging of rich RPF members. So Janis was smarter, she was involved in the regging herself to “comply” to the RPF FOs by being physically there as then the regges weren’t talking to the RPFer without going through the RPF I/C…

    • Ulf,
      If Mr Webb was a man, it was Art Webb. What an incredible auditor! He used to tell me stories about his time on the Apollo. He was my auditor for years pre GAT. I have much respect for him.

      • Yes, Art was the name – Art Webb was the senior tech terminal over our RPF and he was not only very likeable but he was sincerely trying to C/S of for our own cases regardless of the pressure he got from the RTC Reps and I really respected that.

        • martyrathbun09

          Thanks for these comments on Alain and Art. I think people lose sight of what you are pointing out sometimes. There is a tremendous amount of integrity displayed by people under the radar within. That phenomena is evident in Viktor Frankl’s book Man’s Search For Meaning; irrespective of how inhumane and controlling an environment can be, there are those who manage somehow to continue to act out of compassion for his/her fellows.

          • Yes, this was very evident at the FSO where there were many fantastic staff who were simply trying to do what was right an LRH policy and generally act out of their goodness and compassion, no matter the outside pressure. However, many of these got sick, or later were assigned to the RPF or got busted to some low post. This category of people is definitely a dying breed on the inside, at least on any significant posts. But there are a few still standing – Art Webb and heather Crook being some of the greatest tech terminals I have come to work with. Almost all of the guys on the ground in Renos were also a bunch of very cool dudes.

  27. Thanks Marty, you’ve done a great service by outing the truth about Lisa McPherson. Two key LRH references:

    “Earlier discovery and development of the PTS theory is extensively covered. The recent wrap-up came about through my OT research in November 1971. The principal breakthrough was realizing one should NOT invalidate having known certain people before.

    “This is similar to the past life discovery in 1950. Some people thinking this was ‘unpopular’ frowned on it. Some others were only famous characters so flagrantly that past lives were easily invalidated. But people who don’t go past track in Dianetics don’t recover. Even running them as ‘imaginary’ as in Science of Survival advices suddenly breaks through for a stalled Dianetic Case. In this same way with young men and girls using ‘I knew you when you were’ for 2D [romantic] advantage tended to invalidate having known certain individuals before this life.

    “But now it turns out that the ONLY PTS situation that is serious and lasting and can cause a rollercoaster comes from having known the person before this life.” — L. RON HUBBARD, HCO Bulletin of 9 December 1971, PTS RUNDOWN

    “To the degree that a being cannot confront, he enters substitutes which, accumulating, bring about a complexity… Out of this, with further study in other fields, I found that any complexity stemmed from an initial point of nonconfront. This is why looking at or recognizing the source of an aberration in processing ‘blows’ it, makes it vanish. Mental mass accumulates in a vast complexity solely because one would not confront something. To take apart a problem requires only to establish what one could not or would not confront. The basic thing man can’t or won’t confront is evil.” — LRH

  28. Impartial English Girl

    It takes real courage and integrity to “man up” and speak the truth about these atrocities. THANK YOU Mr. Rinder and Mr. Rathbun for having the decency to be open about the atrocity visited upon this innocent and clearly DESPERATELY unwell young lady – who was duped unto death by the very people with whom she sought trust and sanctuary.

    If the endeavours of such as Mr. Rathbun succeed, then Miss McPherson’s death will not have been in vain. If just ONE person is prompted to act against DM because of the ghastly fate that befell her, then her name shall sound throughout the ages. Like the tragedy of the RMS Titanic (which sailed (and was mostly crewed) from a city SO close to where I live and thus has a resounding impact even now, 100 years later…), the appalling loss led to many lives saved. As a DIRECT result of the RMS Titanic tragedy, ALL ships now carry sufficient lifeboats for all on board; ALL ships now maintain 24-hour radio/wireless operation (the nearest ship to the Titanic, the Californian, turned off their Marconi Wireless just 10 minutes or so before the Titanic collided with the fatal iceberg – had Her wireless room still been operational it is likely that almost all aboard the Titanic could have been saved) – and the North Atlantic Ice Patrol was formed. A permanently-roving vessel, whose crew exists for the sole purpose of warning shipping when hazardous ice is nearby. Countless numbers saved – as a direct result of the appalling loss of the lives Titanic took with Her.

    Mr. Rathbun – YOU are the North Atlantic Ice Patrol of “Scientology”. And Miss MacPherson’s tragic loss has not been in vain and she will not be forgotten. Her name will echo throughout history as the catalyst for a dictator’s downfall.

    Peace and love. Keep smiling…

    IEG xxxx

    • IEG-

      Regards the Titanic loss and safety measures put in as a result, that you write above. Very true. But guess what, DM has attempted to do that as Karen #1 points out in her post way above in this tread. Karen posted at Apr6, 7:31AM. Your post here is at 9:31AM. Here it is:
      Karen#1 | April 6, 2012 at 7:31 am | Reply
      WHY 3 swings of the needle to call an FN ?

      Lisa Mcpherson’s death !
      I sincerely believe that Miscavige got shaken up somewhat at the Lisa McPherson firestorm and felt he was bamboozled at misreading the FN.
      It is only a short time spell after Lisa’s death when the new rule of an FN having to swing with equal momentum 3x was enforced on the world.

      And thus we also get Clears being recalled, people being recalled on TR’s & Objectives auditing or co-auditing, cases everywhere being invalidated and made to re-do actions. People retraining, old timers being declared, etc etc. That’s how I see it.

      The 3 swing F/N is a complete alter-is.

  29. markthehungarian

    Wow. These last two posts have been pretty intense. I’m not sure whether David Miscavige will take the bait you’ve set out and come after you with a lawsuit, but my feeling is that he has to do something.

    Surely he can’t just sit back and let you, Marty, who was once a very senior figure in the Church of Scientology, defame him. Or can he?

    Does he have the balls to try and sue you in court? Does he have the minerals to take you on with his pack of legal hounds to destroy you for defamation? Of course not. He’s a coward. And he knows if he dares raise a finger against you in court, he risks being deposed himself.

    I am relying on his pride to fuck things up for himself. As Marcellus Wallace says in Pulp Fiction, “That’s pride fuckin’ with you. Fuck pride! Pride only hurts, it never helps.”

    However, besides being an evil coward, David Miscavige is ignorant. And stupid. But that’s what you get from dropping out of high school. And maybe, just maybe, he believes a little too much of his own posturing.

    If he takes the bait, I think we’ll see something happen in the next month or so.

    As a non-Scientologist, I find everything I have read about the treatment of Lisa McPherson medically negligent to a criminal degree, and unjustifiable no matter what philosophy one adheres to. Unfortunately, I think her case is already too old and too convoluted to cause David Miscavige any problems. Another buffer for Miscavige is the incredible secrecy that exists inside the Church of Scientology, and the distance that individual Scientologist members have to keep from each other. This means that few people there (if any) know anything about McPherson.

    After all, if Mike Rinder was held out of the loop and only discovered more of the truth after being out for years, what hope is there that Miscavige is brought to book for his crimes?

    As I see it, and if what you say is true, then Miscavige has gotten away with murder.

  30. “I am sorry that I am the one telling you, but a new storm is upon us. Its waves are already in the media and the world around us.”
    Debbie Cook on Jan. 1st 2012

    It’s April now and the storm has turned into a Force 10 hurricane with waves coming in at 40 and 50 feet high every few seconds. Nothing can stand that kind of pressure for long.

    Mike and Marty thank you for this pulling back the curtain on this tragedy.

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  32. David Miscavige is a fanatic.

    “A fanatic is a man who consciously over-compensates a secret doubt.”
    -Aldous Huxley

  33. I second that Marty, brave Sir, good show. David Miscavige is a psychopath, a murderer and a coward.

    Please sue me Davey boy

    It’s not a defemation of anything David Miscavige chairman of the board because you are nothing. You can’t handle me or any Independant Scientologist for that matter David Miscavige. You have no content, you are a hollow man. A black hole. I hope in your next life you will amount to something. You are kind of cute though in a naughty schoolboy kind of way David Miscavige, I understand what your Tom Cruise the actor sees in you.

    Cornelius Anthonius Martens

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  35. It’s hilarious the number of Co$ critics who STILL BELIEVE against all effing REASON that their idiotic “tech” and risible Xenu stories have any validity or facility whatsoever.

  36. What part you’d play in that Marty?

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  39. How fascinating – and sad …the consequences of man thinking he is God

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