Another OT VIII Has Seen The Truth Revealed

This is the story of how Halina Cirillo fell in and out of love with the Church of Scientology.

A bit of background about myself.  I was in Scientology for 40 years, on staff in Toronto through most of the 70s.   My original post was Director of Processing which I held for 3 years and was then recruited into the Guardian’s Office and held the post of  DG PR CAN.  As D of P I had 18 auditors in the HGC and our well done auditing hours at that time have never been matched since.  I left the GO in disgust in the late 70s after being shown confidential session data about my brother.  Then I became a public Scientologist, very active in the Church.  I am OT VIII, mid St Hill Special Briefing Course and am IAS “Patron with Honours.”  I have been successful enough in my business career to have been able to donate in excess of half a million dollars between the Bridge and other Scientology campaigns.

I resigned from the Church of Scientology on June 1, 2011 while I was still in good standing.

My adventure in Scientology began in the winter of 1971 when I witnessed a startling change in my brother within two months of his becoming a Scientologist.  He literally turned his life around.  This prompted me to visit the Toronto Org.   I threw myself into Scientology wholeheartedly.  I observed and experienced Scientology working fantastically well in the 70s but I started to notice things changing in regards to the application of the technology in the late 80s.  The biggest change I saw then was that the freedom of how to apply the tech, including personal ethics conditions, was no longer my choice – instead, the Church began to more and more dictate what tech to apply and when and how to apply it.

The following major incidents helped open my eyes as to the real state of affairs in today’s Church of Scientology:

1.    In 1989 I was told that three Toronto public Scientology opinion leaders wrote 300 reports about me which, based on what I was told, I considered to be mainly false and misleadingThe then CO WISE CAN (Mary Ann Frith) got involved and, based on these false reports, CSWed the International Justice Chief in an attempt to have me declared without a Committee of Evidence.  A non enturbulation order was issued on me. When I learned of these reports (none of which were shown to me) I immediately flew to AOSHUK in England to get any necessary handling.  I was security checked and plant checked and nothing of significance came up.  I did an ethics program and returned to Toronto hoping and expecting this would remedy the situation. Unfortunately, it did not.

In a last ditch effort to handle this insanity I compiled a comprehensive rebuttal document which I forwarded to ED Int requesting a Committee of Evidence at Flag.  This was granted.  The Committee of Evidence was held in Toronto several years later.

I was ordered to more security checking at Flag and had to do a major, punitive ethics cycle.  My Flag auditor doing the security checking was dumbfounded that I had been ordered to do this again.  Nevertheless, I completed all the recommendations of the Committee of Evidence.  Even after doing all this it took me well over a year to get the non enturbulation order lifted.

The then CO OSA CAN (Janet Laveau) told me years later that these three people intentionally planned a campaign to get me declared.  To my knowledge none of these individuals were corrected.

The lesson I learned from this was that my Church, supposedly operating on truth, does not always practice what it preaches

2.  When I first began auditing on OTVII in 1994, the required 6 months checks were very short (3-4 days).  After the Golden Age of Tech for OTs came out (1996) things changed.  I couldn’t understand why security checking became more pronounced the higher I went up the Bridge.  I previously never had any objection or resistance to doing appropriate ethics cycles which resulted in release of charge.  After 1996 the 6 months checks consisted mainly of security checks laced with a presumption that one was really out ethics.  Despite having no real difficulty with my Solo auditing, the continuous security checking brought about a tremendous degree of introversion.  I couldn’t count the number of times I red tagged as a result of the security checking.

Part of the introversion was that for some time I thought this was just me, however, I later gradually found out from others on OT VII that they were encountering similar difficulties.

To complete OT VII is a humongous cycle.  I finally did so in 2005.  Before being allowed on the Freewinds to do OT VIII the Freewinds insisted I had to be security checked at Flag again.  This introduction for the first time to the Freewinds didn’t leave me with a warm, fuzzy feeling.  It didn’t get warmer and fuzzier.  I arrived on the Freewinds expecting that the summit of Scientology service delivery would epitomize the greatest amount of ARC anywhere.  Instead, I couldn’t believe the bad control I experienced.

Everything was micro managed to the hilt.  For example, I had some difficulty sleeping on the ship and needed to exercise in the evening to be fully sessionable the next day.  In the middle of my workout, all sweaty, I was ordered to the HGC and questioned by the Tech Sec why I wasn’t in session at 8 pm.  I never felt less free in my whole life and couldn’t wait to finish the service.  When I did finish OT VIII the examiner missed my FN and didn’t call it.  I was devastated.  Later on, she called me back and told me she missed it.  I was never so glad to leave.

The lesson learned here was that there is a tremendous dichotomy existing in corporate Scientology today.  For example, LRH says communication is the universal solvent but, in my opinion and experience, the Church prohibits free communication in many ways.  Corporate Scientology exerts stifling control over its parishioners – by the time one gets on OT VII one’s power of choice has been almost wiped out by the introversion they have brought about.

3.  In early 2000 while on OT VII I wrote to RTC requesting help with a cycle inToronto.  I was not satisfied with the way RTC handled the matter so I wrote to Executive Director International (Guillaume Lesevre) about it and I was subsequently dead filed by RTC.  I learned of this on my next 6 months check from an irate Flag MAA who assigned me a lower condition for questioning RTC and I had to do a major ethics cycle.

The lesson learned here was RTC won’t allow you to question them – if you do, you get dead filed.

4.      I was involved in an ongoing business dispute with my now ex partner (an OT VIII).   I decided to end the partnership and in late 2006 I proposed a 50/50 split which would have been a win/win arrangement.  He refused outright.  I tried for the next 18 months to resolve this directly between us.  This whole incident should have been a simple and easily resolved business partnership dispute.  It is the practice in Scientology that Scientologists are expected to use the services of WISE to get business disputes resolved rather than using the courts of law.  The involvement of WISE starting in 2008, and subsequently that of the Church, turned it into an incredibly arduous, punitive and costly cycle for me in particular.   In the Summer of 2008 my ex partner was on the Freewinds and, soon after returning, he advised me that the Freewinds MAA Samantha told him “to take control of the company and be at cause”.

Because of a legal gag order I am unable to go into all the details of what took place.  I can say that a WISE mediation was held in Fall 2008.   The WISE mediator ordered me to continue operating in partnership with my ex partner.  Believe it or not I reluctantly accepted this ruling but, within six months, things predictably fell apart.   WISE were unable to get anything resolved.  The Church now stepped up their participation considerably.  The WISE mediator arranged a meeting between himself, myself and the CO OSA CAN in her office and CO OSA interrogated me in a very unfriendly fashion about this whole situation.  She also asked me to lend money to my ex partner for a full WISE Dispute Resolution assuring me that he would pay me back.  The whole cycle had  become insane and it was now perfectly clear to me that justice would not be forthcoming from the WISE mediation, so I informed CO OSA that I would be suing my ex partner.

I then filed suit.  Two days after he was served (March 2009) we again agreed to attempt WISE mediation.  The mediation resulted in us splitting the files on a 50/50 basis (what I originally proposed in 2006) and each of us operated our business separately.  The WISE INT Enforcement Officer agreed that if I withdrew the suit there would be no further action or repercussions against me by WISE or the Church.

That turned out to be false – within two weeks Samantha, Freewinds MAA, ordered me to report immediately to the Freewinds for security checking under threat of a non enturbulation order and a declare.  I had little choice but to do so.  Once the security check took place I was flabbergasted to discover that a good part of it concerned disagreements with management rather than the business dispute.  I was told by the MAA and the D of P how they salvaged my life and how grateful I should be to give donations to the IAS and the Book campaigns for all they had done for me.  This cycle cost me about $90,000.  My ex partner was never forced to undergo such punitive measures to my knowledge.

Problems arose with the mediated settlement in the spring of 2011 and the WISE mediator failed to take steps necessary to remedy it.  I resigned from the Church on June 1, 2011 and again sued my ex partner on June 3, 2011.  The legal matter was finally settled in January 2012.

Lessons learned from this were that the Church, in my opinion and based on experience, lies about not getting involved in business matters of its parishioners, and that neither WISE nor the Church properly follow their own Justice policies.


I have experienced many great wins and life changing cognitions in Scientology.  But I have also realized that I have been the recipient of numerous and continuing subtle but destructive forms of indoctrination which combined into a highly effective form of mind control.  The net effect of this is a being with reduced self determinism with less control over his/her own life, and who blindly follows any and all direction coming from the Church.

It is well known that the only way to truly control people is to lie to them.  I have observed that the Church of Scientology is engaging in the use of lies on a wholesale basis for the purposes of controlling their parishioners.  I can’t believe now that I bought the Church line that it is unethical to read anything except LRH or to engage in activities other than those directly supporting Scientology (as stated by the Freewinds C/S).  I was truly shocked to recognize the diabolical mixture of good and evil that today’s Church of Scientology consists of.

I now understand why a self determined being such as myself would be so receptive to mind control practices as to blindly follow non survival and unjustifiable Church orders and mistreatment.  It is incredible to me now how long it took me to really wake up from my super-indoctrinated and somnambulistic state.

I can no longer be part of the Church of Scientology.  I now consider myself to be an Independent Scientologist.  My life has never been happier nor more stress free than since I left the Church.

If you wish to communicate with me directly my secure email address is:

I want to thank Marty for his courage and for all he does to provide such a helpful and enlightening forum. I also wish to say how much I appreciate the contributions of Mike and all the other incredible beings active on this blog.

Halina Cirillo

180 responses to “Another OT VIII Has Seen The Truth Revealed

  1. Welcome Halina! Yes, we always noticed what a mess WISE was just on their admin blunders! And there was the time they told us we couldn’t have a Scientology staff member working for us. I just said, “You’re asking us to commit religious discrimination which is against the law. If you don’t want her working here, you talk with HER, not us!” Then, since it was somebody’s bright idea arbitrary, they dropped it completely. DUMBasses!
    And the rest of your story confirms what we’ve suspected does happen to the OT VIIs and VIIIs–the introversion and taking over of the person’s power of choice. Thanks for the data.

    • The WISE terminal who told us to fire our employee was Dan Brown, son of Neil Brown who went to Federal Prison after ripping off lots of Scientologists and a few too many non-Scientologists (people who could complain to the authorities)…

  2. Welcome, Halina! You’ve done the right thing to stay on Ron’s side and leave the church madhouse.

  3. As anyone noticed that all the real ass-kicking real OTs of Scientology are on the outside? Welcome Halina!

    • I have!

    • I have. And those that remain under the radar such as myself continue to communicate the truth to those hanging out at the cool aid stand.

      It reminds me of what it was like back in the day when first exposed to LRH and the tech. Then it was using what you learned to spread the word into society. Today it has to be reversed in order to confront the ‘reverse scientology’ being practiced by the kool aid cult.

      So I approach anyone ‘connected’ and apply the A to E steps to the scene only it is run in reverse. (We discussed this a couple of months ago on the phone Steve)

      A) Are you operating on any orders given you by church terminals?
      There are many of these of course:
      -you must attend the event
      -you must donate
      -you must get onto your next level
      -you must do the Pro Trs course before you can leave the base!

      Give them the command:
      “Stop committing present time overts on yourself by willingly acting on someone elses determinism. Do what is true for you and get some case gain.”
      Obviously this is a key step and requires that you have a communication line to put it on in the first place. This may be the only valid point to remain under the radar but it also creates a destabilizing effect on current staff and kool aid public because there is a not-know going on. The current on board public is simply waiting to receive an order as to whether they should communicate to you or not. In other words ….. they are not wanting to look for themselves. Sometimes all you need to say is …… BOOH!!!!! The spirit of play can be a wonderful tool!

      B) Watch for the gradient scale progression on the person making a public announcement. Self first and perhaps alluding to you, then to a friend, then to a group then to the public at large. Ultimately this step must be done as a calculated effort to “expose any conspiracy to suppress Scientology or the preclear …”
      (LRH – refer to page 224 of the blue book Intro to Scn Ethics)

      This info will start with a trickle and turn into a flood as we have generally all experienced!

      B-1) This step requires that all donations made to the church via the out-ethics crush regging tactics ……be ‘paid back’ … this case to the parishoner. (good luck with that as that as it may require some perseverance!)

      The rest of the steps unfold similarly.

  4. Halina,

    I love strong women and I have known since I first met you that you are definitely in that camp… I love you for being you.

    You make a huge difference where ever you are.

    Thrilled you are completely out and free.

    Look forward to seeing and being with you again.


  5. Phil de Fontenay

    Hey Halina,

    Loved your write-up! Thank you :)


  6. To Path of Bouddha. You said you did an extendend version of OTVIII in 89. I did OTVIII in 89 and I don’t see what you mean by extended version. Actually any OTVIII I could speak to did the same version than me, which was short, yet we cannot describe details on this blog. But aside the fact that there is 2 other versions of OTVIII on the net (one from 1969 which is looking genuine as original OTVIII and makes very much sens, another from 1980, more fancy, that the church claim to be a forgery), there is this story of new OTVIII being cut in half or maybe another different version of new OTVIIII. God, all this should be once clarified!
    Truth should once be revealed!

    • I never got to do OTVIII in DM’s organization although I had if fully paid for in the “Ship Project” days (late 80s). Aside from the data you mention, several OTVIIIs have revealed the procedures and they are on the net. Oddly enough, there are at least 2 different procedures, each supposedly the official OTVIII. Karen #1 has related that she got a group of OTVIIIs together and – after communicating about what they had actually done on the level – discovered that there were at least 3 different versions.

      • Path of Buddha

        This might also clarify the situation. When I was on the Freewinds in 1988,there were several individuals who could not complete the level.
        They were totally stuck. I remember that these people were routed onto
        a special review cycle. Later, I learned that the level was basically split into two parts.

        George M. White

    • My wife and I recently compared notes, we did different processes altogether. Me, early last decade, and her 8 yrs later. That’s two different versions just there.

    • Path of Buddha

      My wife just reminded me I met her on the Freewinds in 1989 and
      that was almost a year after completing OTVIII. Actually, I was on
      the cruise right after the Maiden Voyage in 1988. There were only a few of
      us on the ship at that time. This is the correct time, form, place and event.
      We did a much longer version of OTVIII. I met Miscavige on the
      ship. He recalled all OTVIII’s a few months later. I left Scientology at
      that time.

      George M. White

    • Path of Buddha

      I did the OTVIII version that the Church claims to be a forgery.
      If it is a forgery, I could probably by-pass the Statute of Limitations, and
      buy myself a lot of extra luxury in retirement.
      George M. White

      • George,
        Thanks for this bit of information. I always suspected it was real – it had that distinct LRH flavor.

  7. I wonder now how anybody can have a floating needle in the current church or get up the bridge. Once I had to do a confessional correction list on a Sea Org member. Back in 1982. PC sitting in front of me and the needle was stuck. PC not willing to talk to me. Reading the whole list to the PC and no little tick. Then I tried it with basic Scientology. I put away my list and meter and asked the PC „what is going on?“. She then told me that the auditor in session after revealing an overt told her something like she being the worst person on earth full of heavy overts and she is should not be in the Sea Org.
    Some days later I had a student that needed some word clearing. Needle stuck and student not willing to talk. I again asked him about whats going on. He told me that he had been indicated in session an overt. Auditor told him what his overt is. I did a quick two way comm correction.
    While writing this I remembered the following definition out of the technical dictionary:
    „2 . An F/N with bad indicators is an ARC break needle. These include propitiation. It is quite usual that a pc has just mentioned grief when the ARC break needle turns on, or some gloomy idea. A real F/N means the pc is out the top; an ARC break needle means he’s out the bottom. He ceases to mock up, through grief. (HCOB 5 Oct 68)“
    Another quote from the technical dictionary:
    „THETA TRAPS, how can you trap a thetan? By curiosity, by giving him awards and prizes (of an implant), by retractor screens, by mock-ups, by ornate buildings which he will enter unsuspectingly to be electroniced down: by many such means the thetan is reduced from knowing to a colonist, a slave, a MEST body.“

    • quote from the technical dictionary:
      THETA TRAPS, how can you trap a thetan? By curiosity, by giving him awards and prizes (of an implant), by retractor screens, by mock-ups, by ornate buildings which he will enter unsuspectingly to be electroniced down: by many such means the thetan is reduced from knowing to a colonist, a slave, a MEST body.“

      Gosh, where have we seen that being dramatized recently?

    • Your humble servant


      Sounds like you are an AUDITOR. Today, I would expect that if the GAT trained “auditor” couldn’t get any response on a confessional list that the “auditor” or Case Supervisor would route the poor PC to “ethics” to be put in “lower conditions.”

      So, except for your observant handling, those PCs would have simply had their cases further messed up and have been put into apathy or propitiation.

      I agree with you that it seems highly unlikely that ANYONE can make it up the grade chart honestly under conditions of suppression and out tech. I think the only saving grace for the GAT auditors that makes it SEEM like some people are making it is that an ARC Break needle can look like an F/N and be accepted as one, plus it is possible for PCs who are not in session (not interested in own case and willing to talk to the auditor) can fake an “f/n” by “thinking of something else.”

    • George – Totally. HCOB’s under the topic “Communication” are very interesting. There’s one very profound statement LRH makes about communication being the clue. One could argue that many auditors use a session and meter as vias, when the real action is the communication. Accomplishment is gettng the comm down so smoothly that the meter ans session are transparent to the PC, and the comm is carefully directed. – Carcha.

      • Carcha,
        communication is the one important thing in auditing. Sample: Student in the academy cannot grasp a paragraph. Hours of wordclearing. I took over and asked the student about any word in this part of the text he did not understand. Method 4. He says word soandso. We clear this one and no full conceptual understanding possible. I ask about a earlier word he did not understand. Bingo. Straight into an implant. Core charge released and go. Without e-meter just communication.
        I miss those times you could help people that easy.

        • George – LOL! Very nice! Real gutsy. But what do you mean you miss those times you could help people that easy?????? E.g. You just encouraged me to get more courses. – Carcha.

  8. Hello Halina,
    thank you very much for making a voice.

    WISE ain’t wise anymore.
    I don’t know if this was a good idea in the first place.
    Secularisation of Scientology Materials won’t work without the correct knowledge of some attitudes covered by the spiritual philosophy Scientology.
    Look at DM. He can’t manage to attain any kind of Ethics Presence, because he lacks the understanding of the basic concept of ARC.

    All best to you, Halina!

    • one of those who see

      Hi SKM! I’ve posted this song a couple of times before on the blog. But it was a while ago. It’s the perfect Indie song!!! Glad you agree. One of my favorites!!!!!! Never saw this performance with Coldplay. Cool!!!!

    • Nice!!!!

  9. miscavigeisscaredofsam

    HUGE hug and big smoochy kisses xxxxxxxxxxx

  10. Hi Halina,
    Every success… the future is far greater successful with LRH.

  11. Thank you for the warm welcome. An added bonus for me is experiencing and appreciating the unique and intuitive viewpoints of the fine people that post here.

  12. Hi all;

    Something very important has come up and I need to know if there ae any active Indies in the Denver Colorado area. If anyone here knows, or knows someone who may know, please contact me. It is important, and could be quite wonderful.


  13. Hi Halina,
    It’s great to see your picture and post here.
    Great job of documenting the insanity of cofs and not-at-all-Wise.
    Glad you’re standing tall and I look forward to seeing you again at the next get-together!

    Vic K.

  14. Welcome Halina. I have noticed some of the corruption you experienced with WISE. There is little if any justice to be found there and that will cost you a lot of money and grief.

  15. WISE, CCHR, ABLE, IAS and the front group list of names goes on and on and YES they will ALL rip you off and tell you lies just to drain your back account. The biggest offender is the mother church they take ripping off and deception to a whole new level they are on super steroids when it comes to extracting money from people as well as extracting peoples heart and souls. The church is a soulless organization with a bunch of cowards running the show. Their time will come and they will go down like every other bully went down. They are just bad news on every front.

  16. Ms. Cirillo, so nice to meet you. I’ve heard some horror stories about WISE arbitration and ultimately it keeps going back to the almighty dollar – for the Corporate CofS and nobody else. The organization has thrown out LRH and replaced it with he said, she said, hey you, do this, do that, don’t do this, don’t do that confusion and chaos.
    Very well done on getting up the Bridge and being successful despite this!
    Awesome to see you free from the suppression! Our theta juggernaut just got exponentially bigger!

  17. Welcome, Halina, and thank you for your story. I was stunned by it, and by how I can relate to so many parts of your story, with the atrocities of WISE and the cult, and I barely even started my lower levels.

    The admin tech of LRH is quite workable, and “WISE membership” is nothing more than an embarrassment. Membership is not necessary in order to apply the admin tech. It is, in fact, useless, except to those who are comfortable drinking Kool Aid and fooling themselves. The status seekers, tattling and KRs, backstabbing.. it always reminded me of the Hitler Youth.

    Welcome back to peace of mind.

  18. Very well done, Halina!!! Looking forward to meet in person one day and chat – having gone up and through OT8 I am sure we have much common reality to share: The good the bad and the ugly :)))

  19. one of those who see

    Hi Halina,
    Thank you for your story! Many of us did not make it all the way to OTVIII in the Church. My last time at one of the higher orgs, I never even got in session. So, your information is important and it backs up what I thought is probably going on. Miscavige has created the perfect theta trap. Welcome to freedom of thought and communication! And where your wins from Scientology can come into full bloom.

  20. Damn! Halina that’s an amazing timeline and story. Congrats on stepping away from the church and regaining your happiness.

  21. Halina,

    Welcome into the light!

    Thank you for your write-up. You reminded me of my own experiences at the Freewinds and with WISE. I am really glad to have you with us out in the open now.

  22. Looks like I got an answer to my earlier stated question. Scientology Inc with DM as headmaster is one big theta trap. But the mere presence of DM does not explain all of it, I’m afraid.

    • tessa, human frailty explains it to me. A person like DM knows how to exploit that, and is 100% dedicated to doing just that.

  23. Welcome Halina.

    What a great write up. Aaaahhh, WISE “justice” cycles. They make wog justice look good.

    Glad to have your here.

  24. Welcome out here!! The summer is coming!

  25. Thank you Halima for sharing your story. The mind control and squirreling within the CofM never ceases to amaze me. Glad you are out of it and free!

  26. Hello Halina, I’m so very happy for you that you have seen the real truth revealed. What a fortunate win! Blessings Always.

  27. Hi Halina, remember you well, but mostly as a pre-staff public. Forgot your maiden name, but remember that you (were the foxy girl who) married Sam. I was an HGC auditor at the time you came in and transitioned on the post of D of P from Helen, nee? Joot. So glad you made it to OT VIII and have since escaped the Miscarriage cult. Bruce Clark

  28. Just read Halina’s story. I don’t know what shocked me more…. her story, or fact that CoS runs online advertising to specifically discredit former members. I am kinda embarrassed I didn’t notice this before…. I just saw the AdServer ad for an anti-Headley site (see attached image). Really?… the ‘church’ wastes its money on hate promotion? Anyway, glad Halina is free now.

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