Integrate

Some have questioned lately where I stand on the subject of Scientology and its author L. Ron Hubbard.  I have found that perplexing since I believe I have pretty thoroughly shared that through my writings over the past four years.  It occurred to me that maybe I lost some folks in never opening up for discussion topics that I covered in the greatest detail in the book What Is Wrong With Scientology?  Healing Through Understanding.

In chapter 15 Hereafter of that book I laid out three lessons I  had learned since leaving the church of Scientology that I believed if not learned by Scientologists would spell Scientology’s demise as a viable subject in the future.  The first lesson was that Scientologists need to develop the tolerance and compassion necessary to integrate. That particular segment of the book is republished below. Feel free to sound off on what is wrong with this, what is unworkable about this, where I was inaccurate or unfair, why it ought not be heeded, or whatever else you want to say about it (within the bounds, or course, of this blog’s moderation policy).

Excerpt:

Integrate or Disintegrate

One hallmark of the corporate Scientologist that has done more than perhaps anything else to harm the attractiveness of the subject is the assumption of the holier-than-thou attitude. Scientology Inc. drives home at every level, gradiently increasing as one progresses, the idea that a Scientologist is superior to mere mortals and wogs.  Some of this is inculcated by Hubbard’s writings and lectures.  I believe that is partly due to Hubbard feeling the need to keep people involved and engaged when it was particularly tough for one to do so.

During Hubbard’s lifetime, Scientologists were continually at risk of losing family, friends, jobs, and even their civil liberties, just by virtue of practicing Scientology.  That was due in great part to the established monopoly on mental healing of the ’50s and early ’60s – driven through the American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association and American Psychological Association – condemning and organizing aggressive attacks against Scientology.  That this was once the case will be made plain in my subsequent book on the movement’s history. However, it is still untenable to be associated with Scientology in certain countries, including Germany and France.  Hubbard’s material consistently regards Scientologists with the attitude that in the light of organized attacks, they ought to take pride for daring to look where others won’t.

Hubbard took that defensiveness to another level by becoming increasingly assertive that Scientology is the only workable route to betterment.  With that came a growing disdain for other practices and philosophies.  It began with psychiatry, spread to psychology and psycho-therapy, and then to other philosophies and religions.  By the mid-’60s, firm policies were instituted that effectively forbade the outside study of any other mental, spiritual, or religious philosophy.  It was a gradually-growing intolerance, but by the end of Hubbard’s life it became sweeping and absolute.  By way of example, let us take Hubbard’s attitude toward Sigmund Freud and the fields of psychiatry and psychology.  Freud was noted by Hubbard as someone to whom “credit in particular is due” at the beginning of his seminal 1951 book Science of Survival.

By 1959, Hubbard had toned that acknowledgement down to a condescending tolerance:

Older nineteenth century studies, such as psychology, developed by Wundt in 1879 in Leipzig, Germany; psychoanalysis, developed by Freud in 1894 in Vienna, Austria; and psychiatry, developed through the nineteenth century in Russia, did not necessarily fail, since they provided data which permitted Scientology to begin.

By 1970, Hubbard becomes far more critical:

Any early technology of the human mind was perverted by the University of Leipzig studies of animal fixations of a Prof. Wundt in 1879, who declared man a soul-less animal, subject only to stimulus-response mechanisms and without determinism. Further perversions entered upon the scene in the 1894 libido theory of Sigmund Freud, attributing all reactions and behavior to the sex urge.

Finally, in 1982, Hubbard summed up the contribution of the psychologist, psycho-therapist, and psychiatrist – referred to collectively in Scientology as ‘psychs’ – in a bulletin entitled The Cause of Crime:

There would be no criminals at all if the psychs had not begun to oppress beings into vengeance against society. There’s only one remedy for crime – get rid of the psychs! They are causing it!

Corporate Scientologists, trained to abide by all of Hubbard’s words literally, believe this without question.  Thus, their leader Miscavige currently whips thousands of Scientologists into a virtual frenzy at his annual International Association of Scientologists event – a yearly enactment chillingly reminiscent of Hitler’s Nuremburg rallies – by announcing campaigns directed at destroying ‘the psychs.’  The crowds leap to their feet to give minutes-long standing ovations when Miscavige announces Scientology Inc. funding for the “Psychiatry: Global Retribution” campaign, or the “Psychs: Global Obliteration” plan.

Thus we see what Scientology Inc.’s celebrity spokesman Tom Cruise was referring to when he appeared on the Today show and sternly scolded host Matt Lauer with laser-intense certainty: “You are glib.  You don’t know the history of psychiatry. I do!”  And we saw Cruise become the poster boy for Scientology Inc.’s implanted, dysfunctional, superiority complex.  Witness Cruise – who claims his “best friend” to be David Miscavige himself – pridefully pronouncing in a viral YouTube video that a Scientologist “knows that he is the only one who can truly help” others, even down to assisting a motorist in distress.  What are we to think – that all Highway Patrolmen, Emergency Medical Technicians, even good Samaritans are incompetent, wrong-intentioned people who cannot be trusted?

The first lesson I learned after 27 years on the inside was precisely the opposite.  When I left, I moved to deep-south Texas.  I had been high profile within, and thought that critics and enemies of Scientology would use my departure to Scientology’s detriment.  My goal was to disappear. And for three years I was successful.  During those three years, I had no contact whatsoever with anyone I had known for the previous entirety of my life.  I was a hurt, lonely person.  The first thing I noticed was that others noticed that condition.  Mind you, these were the lowliest people imaginable, since the county I lived in was perennially one of the three poorest in the nation.

The next thing I noticed was that those lowly ‘wogs’ cared to do something about my pain. And while they did not have a lot to share, they were only too willing to give the two things they did have: compassion and communication.  I noticed that in South Texas people of whatever station or race treat all other people with respect.  Men call one another ‘Sir’ when they meet for the first time or when they casually pass or do simple business. One is automatically granted respect and it is up to one to maintain it.  You keep it or lose it by your subsequent conduct, but you start off with their assumption that you deserve it.  Where did this come from?  I suppose some of it was Christian based, some of it was Mexican-culture based, some of it was Southern-Americana based.  Whatever the source, I do know that the compassion and communication that ultimately saved my soul turned out to be inner-city and ‘psych’ based.

I met Monique Banks in early 2005. The minute she met me, she treated me like a long-lost family member.  We have lived together since – we were married in 2010.  She had an incredible set of people skills when I met her.  They were tolerance, interest, compassion, listening, forgiveness and unconditional love.  This woman gave me the space and understanding I needed to decompress, to heal, and to put my life into perspective.  It was not till later when I met her father that I would understand where she had learned these skills.  Jim Banks is, of all things, a psycho-therapist and professor of psychology by profession.  Jim is a man’s man.  He grew up without a father, in the Bronx.  He sacrificed his teenage years to serve as father to his four younger brothers.  He then served his country in the jungles of Vietnam as a United States Marine.  Besides the qualities I already mentioned that Monique displayed, I learned that he taught his children four important lessons.

First, don’t ever play the victim – it is the most painful and unrewarding route one can choose, and if played too long will make you a victim for good.  Two, remember that you cannot control the way that other people act, but you can always control the way you react to them, and the way you act yourself.  Three, if you want to get better and more competent, then choose to associate with friends who are better and more competent than yourself (clearly impossible for one who believes he is superior to the rest). Four – and most importantly – remember that no matter what the question, the answer is ‘love.’  Ironically, Jim and Monique both naturally, and without effort, exemplified the best qualities that I believe Scientology can help one develop.  Jim, despite his profession alone rendering him a ‘cause of crime’ in the eyes of Scientology Inc., had no problem understanding my description of Scientology.  In fact, he agreed with just about everything I told him about it.

Spending time with my new family has taught me that the goals of Scientology are not monopolized.  It taught me that there are other means to achieve those goals, and people were exemplifying that in their conduct in the world.  This lead to a curiosity about how society and philosophy and the study of the mind had evolved during my years within the machine.  I read and read and read some more.  The more I read, the more I saw Scientology as aligning with, agreeing with, and potentially having tools that could help with other bodies of wisdom and routes to happiness and realization.  I also began to see more clearly how Scientology Inc. had alienated and segregated itself from the rest of society, leaving the world at large with the inclination to steer clear of Scientology.

I never preached Scientology to Monique.  But, the subject arose many times, when she would ask me about a good quality in me that she had noticed, which I would attribute to some aspect of Scientology.  On three occasions I used simple Scientology techniques to prevent illnesses from taking hold of Monique’s body.  This increased her curiosity.  The more she learned of Scientology from me, the more she considered that it aligned with what she knew to be good, healing, and empowering.

As we learned more of each other, I found that beneath Monique’s courage, strength and wisdom she carried hurt and despair like everyone else.  She reached for auditing and I provided it.  I audited her up the Bridge, through the Grades and Dianetics to Clear.  But I audited her up the Bridge with absolutely none of the Black Dianetics additives that have been detailed throughout this book.  No attempts were made to have her believe anything, no effort was made to control her behavior and life, nothing was done to get her to view people in any other way than the way she saw appropriate to view them.  My goal was solely to help her to recover more of herself, to assist her to take off those synthetic personality jackets that didn’t belong to her inherently and were making her uncomfortable – just as Hubbard prescribed when he spoke directly of the actual auditing technology. Though I had audited many dozens of people in my time within Scientology Inc. (including virtually all of its A-list VIPs), it was only during my auditing on the outside that I began to truly appreciate the power of the technology of Scientology.

There was no limit to the effectiveness of Scientology when it was offered and delivered with the sole, unadulterated intent to service and to help.  It was completely acceptable and understandable to people when it was not marketed, sold, or covertly forced upon them.  It enhanced and reinforced the good lessons that people learned from any number of sources, when it was not used to dissuade people from listening to or learning from other sources.  After another three years of delivering Scientology on the same basis to former members of Scientology Inc. and to people new to the subject altogether, those observations have been further validated.

Scientology works wonderfully when it integrates with society, civilization, and the philosophies and religions of others.  Scientology harms when it seeks to segregate from society, civilization, and the philosophies and religions of others.  If Scientologists do not learn to integrate, they will disintegrate as a potential meaningful influence.

If corporate Scientologists cannot wrap their wits around thinking conceptually with the subject and integrating with society, but instead feel they must continue to act robotically, only according to literal commands of L. Ron Hubbard, then a good start for them would be to aspire to live literally by this central tenet of Hubbard’s: “A being is only as valuable as he can serve others.”

If one truly attempted to live up to that maxim, he or she might begin to see the light. To Scientologists who can think conceptually and have not cut themselves off from the fruits of observation, you might appreciate the tree from which that branch grew:

What is a good man but a bad man’s teacher? What is a bad man but a good man’s job? If you do not understand this, you will get lost, however intelligent you are. It is the great secret.  – Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

184 responses to “Integrate

  1. I got my husband involved in Scientology and made it up the bridge through three L’s and is now on OTlV. He had some ups and downs with non standard people, even got put onto the OT levels with no set ups no OT preps and no solo course check sheet done, not even having his clear date verified, which got cleaned up pretty fast as I was here to notice. There are some “in and out” Scientology hamburger stands traveling around these days. Nevertheless he learned the hard way, and so did my children, what happens, and they are “standard tech” people through learning from experiences with people who are not.

    My husband has never been in an Org or Mission or any Scientology culture. He got a friend of his in another country to go into an Org to buy the Dianetics book. Within a year his friend had been regged for 250,000 to the I.A.S. and had done nothing but a comm course. Next we heard, his friend had been convinced to dump his wife and child because the wife was not interested. Yesterday my husband called him and he told my husband he is getting ready to move on the bridge now, and he cannot talk to my husband or he will get in trouble with ethics. Hung up the phone.

    My kids have seen it from a whole new angle. Over the years they have seen Scientologists come through our home and several coming right out of the Church, living with us for a while until they got back on their feet. Many of those if coming out of the Sea Org, never co existing with children before or interacting with them. Absolutely blind to them, not even acknowledging their presence in a room. One threw a fit upon seeing them jump up and down on a bed. Many unable to tolerate the sound of children. None of the people coming out of the Sea Org wanting anything to do with them. Some women absolutely re stimulated by them into incidents of parting or losing or abandoning their own children. Scenes with them bursting out and crying. And I have to say, none being kind or interested in them. Although outside of a Scientology circle, others have taken a keen interest in them. Auditors coming and going. And then auditors coming and going for them. They just had a big clean up with a very good tech terminal as they had gotten blown off the bridge. They returned to a VGI’s state and the minute the first one got through grade zero, he walked up to me and said, “Mom, how come all of the Scientologists we meet are so fucked up?” Still, they are asking for more auditing. Even though one of their friends has segregated them away from him, since they found out my kids were involved in Scientology (they are getting hit from the other angle now).

    It is very interesting for me to watch people go up the bridge without the social structure that evolved.

    In Dianetics one handles ATTITUDES as case. “Pain attitudes sensation and emotion”.

    Yet the exclusions, labels, classes, judgments, and all the rest, are really attitudes that segregation evolves around.

    The Church of Scientology is emphatic on segregation. Even who sits at which dinner table at the Int Base and who gets the better food. And integration is ENFORCED. As who you sleep with with in what room, who you must liaise with, who you can speak to etc etc. Sea Org members have been forbidden to chat with public for years now, only “official” communication. As if the public were inmates. Adults segregated from children, certain staff segregated from other staff and nobody knowing what the others and doing and thinking, parents not even knowing what their own children are doing and thinking.

    Segregation and enforced integration are not wanted and need by most people on Earth. The Church does not look and has not for many decades as to what is wanted and needed by others. It has been in the business of telling it’s customers what THEY want and need.

    The problems of the Church are not very complicated to understand.

    You REALLY hit the nail on the head in this chapter Marty.

    • So did you. You just made me realize that the simple fact of not considering what is wanted and needed alone is going to make them obsolete very fast.

      • Yeah, it does seem to me that the CoS might have risen up to that Condition (Non-E) at some point — needing to find out what is needed and wanted — and then never actually completed the steps.

  2. Thank You for that Marty. It expressed everything I have felt, observed, and concluded. And thanks for allowing someone like myself get to know you better too, via your works. :D

  3. When I read the book and this chapter again here I was thinking of myself been fanatic about Scientology for a while – at the beginning. The wins from using the tech are so huge, the changes are so obvious and incredible that you have to really hold yourself down not to jump and scream about it trying to get others to experience the wonders. I did not want to try to learn anything else in a field of spiritual self-exploring. It is only now, these recent days – more then 10 years after leaving the Church I dare to explore other ways. Just borrowed from a dear old friend a quoted book of Lao Tsu to read. Only now (!) I feel ready to read it with a peaceful mind, having no reservations or protest thoughts of “betraying” my religion. I realized that I went a long way to find myself here.

    When I look back at the people in the Church I see there lots of teenagers joining with no or very little life experience, with no or very little education. They are very prone to accept a sweet pill of lies mixed with real wins they experience using Scientology. Those are who mainly constitute the church now. They are refusing to look and to think for themselves. I don’t see how they can possibly integrate with anything outside the allowed perimeter.

  4. Marty,

    Whether it’s delusional on my part or LRH’s, I hearken back to the first time I read “Hymn of Asia”. It made sense then. it makes sense now.

    We do exist in a spiritual realm, irregardless of our opinions and considerations.

    It’s been my life-long fervent hope that a great awakening would occur.

    I think we’re there. However, there will be ‘pain’.

    Your viewpoint and the outpouring of all the others here has been not only been significant, but has been monumental towards the inevitable endgame. So here we go. Some of us will only be capable of saying, “Oh Shit!”

    The rest will say, “Oh My!!!”

    Thanks again for all you do and have done. I mean it.

  5. I believe that the strength of LRH’s hostility toward psychiatry parallels the intensity of their efforts to destroy would-be competitors/dissenters and the ongoing revelation of the depth of extreme and vicious experimental programs and political agendas.

    Here’s some samples he was confronting, as documented in the book “Secret, Don’t Tell — The Encyclopedia of Hypnotism” by Carla Emery

    https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/emery

    “…the day has come when we can combine sensory deprivation with drugs, hypnosis and astute manipulation of rewards and punishment to gain almost absolute control over an individual’s behavior…a very rapid and highly effective type of positive brainwashing that would allow us to make dramatic changes in a person’s behavior and personality…[in] a few months—or perhaps even less than that…

    “The techniques of behavioral control make even the hydrogen bomb look like a child’s toy, and, of course, they can be used for good or evil. But we can no more prevent the development of this new psychological methodology than we could have prevented the development of atomic energy…
    – McConnell, Psychology Today, April 1970

    “When James V. McConnell announced the new method of positive brainwashing in the article quoted above, he was a famous Michigan behaviorist. In the early 1970s, he trained flatworms by electric shocks to prefer the lighted tunnel to the dark one. He edited and published both The Journal of Biological Psychology and the Worm Runner’s Digest, a radical behaviorist periodical. If anybody outside the Company knew what happened when you put all the MKULTRA research together and applied it with the goal of personality restructuring to a single subject, it would be McConnell. In that article, he urged readers to adopt

    “…a revolutionary viewpoint toward society and its problems. Today’s behavioral psychologists are the architects and engineers of the Brave New World… (Ibid., p. 74)

    “He suggested temporary incarceration for antisocial persons while they were being “cured” by means of this new technology. The subject would be housed in a “rehabilitation center” while experts “restructure his entire personality.” McConnell argued:

    “No one owns his own personality. Your ego, or individuality, was forced on you by your genetic constitution and by the society into which you were born. You had no say about what kind of personality you acquired, and there’s no reason to believe you should have the right to refuse to acquire a new personality if your old one is antisocial… (Ibid.)”

    I would have to agree with LRH’s vehement attacks on such techniques and agendas. I did. And I got out and collected petitions and marched in protests. And it did help, tremendously. But that was in the 1970s.

    I think what has to be confronted and understood is that as much as individual psychologists and psychiatrists may not reflect the vicious intent expressed above, they come to be represented legally, organizationally and politically by a GROUP MENTALITY. It really isn’t much different than tarring and feathering individual Scientologists along with the perpetrators of violence in the Church of Scientology who are represented legally, organizationally and politically by the Church.

    I believe that the fatally flawed technology that was adopted was the PR/Propaganda techniques derived by the nephew of Sigmund Freud, Edward Bernays, and I believe that this “technology” is largely responsible for the deaths of millions of people in the 20th century and the continual onslaught against civil liberty & rights in the name of mental health.

    The other fatally flawed technology is to be found in government legislative processes that are manipulated by the methods created and propagated by Bernays and his ilk, including vested interest group lobbying, celebrity positioning, stereotyping, polling, and the many methods used to foster a dangerous environment for the purpose of forwarding the interests of an industry and destroying all competitors reputations, making them utterly unacceptable in society including baby, bathwater and tub.

    The red alert state of LRH begins in the 1950s, escalating to a peak in 1978 when the Los Angeles Churches were raided. I don’t know if the red alert is over even now, for the AMA and APA still stand vigilant against anyone who dares to tread in what they have created legally as their turf.

    Surely there is a way to address this kind of insanity, but what it is I do not personally know. What I do know is that the Bernays PR/Propaganda craziness has resulted in tremendous harm.

    Right now, I am more hopeful than I have ever been in the last 35 years as I visit all kinds of websites and find that the bulk of the people who comment and write are kind, do wish others well, and are seeking good ways of addressing this plague upon mankind, regardless of their profession, ethnicity or belief systems.

    I have been watching the number of signatures to end the violence against women in India for about a week — you can see the names and countries as they add their signatures. They come from all over the world, people who care, people who want to see solutions implemented that will foster a kinder and more compassionate world, over a million have signed. I cannot begin to express my relief and gratitude to see this amazing and wonderful show of love for mankind.

    And this is what I see on Marty’s blog, an effort to move on up a little bit higher. We have friends, friends all over the world, and it is most of the population, thank God.

    I grieve for the horror and pain that LRH must have felt as he turned his humanitarian efforts into a war machine against vested interests that sought to disenfranchise and brutalize in the name of mental health. That forced him to enforce standards and regulations so there would be no chinks in the armor that vicious attorneys could use to destroy an entire group of people’s bonafide beneficial efforts. Wherever he is, I wish him well. It was an ugly fight, the kind that destroys the good along with the bad and shatters those who fight. It is my sincere hope that out these ashes, there can be a learning and intelligent analysis that can result in finding good ways of bringing forward the best of what we have learned and discarding the worst that developed along the way.

    • Excellent observations, Maria, on how PR — so antipathetic to so much of the core of Scientology — became seen as a necessary “weapon” to fight fire with fire. And now has ultimately backfired on itself, by overzealous and fanatical use.

    • Wow, awesome research and post Maria!

      There are those critics who like to put forth that LRH wasn’t being attacked by vested interests and he was just paranoid. That is a crock.

      I wonder how many of those critics were actually around in the 1950s and 1960s, and saw the cultural scene for themselves. “Confront of evil”, lack thereof, does not just apply to CoS members who fail to realize what the CoS has become.

  6. I have had this gut feeling for sometime that Mosey was way too spectacular for you — and I mean that as a compliment to both of you. The point being that we all deserve to find our own way to whatever and whoever it is that allows us to become who we truly are. Great post Marty

  7. Marty, I highly value what you have to say and check in nearly every day.

    My decompression will seem to me to be about over, then I discover other areas and long-held considerations that need my closer examination.

    Once I got over the sacred cow of daring to question scientology, or LRH, things got simpler. I read other things and seek other points of view, without throwing out things I have found to be useful or true.

    I value and use the beneficial parts of scientology that I have learned, and discard the cultish stuff. Like anything, it takes practice but one can get better and better at it. After a while, one can just see the difference.

  8. As a non scientologist could someone answer a question for me please.
    inb4 OSA
    inb4 trying to derail thread
    I was in a religous book store and could not help notice that not only did they sell bibles but there were at least 100 other books on different peoples interpritations on it.Yet the only books on scientology i can find are either written by lrh or critics of scientology.
    Would a high level OT in good standing be able to write a book about his experiences what worked,what didnt etc and if not why?
    Thankyou

    • Hey 4chan,

      These days, no the CoS would not allow it. In the 50s, 60s and 70s, though, it was pretty common. Look for books on ebay, amazon, etc. by:

      Ruth Minshull,
      Peter Gillham,
      Denver Frater,
      Omar Garrison,
      Reg Sharpe,
      Trevor Meldal-Johnson,
      … and a few others.

      Minshull, Gillham and Garrison were big through the 70s especially.

  9. EnthralledObserver

    So, the power of scientology, its reported (I rely on anecdoetes I’ve read here to support this assumption) goodness and its effectiveness lie wholly in the hands of the person delivering it? That in itself is a scary thought; yet (although its never going to affect me personally) that concept does render a small amount of hope to the subject and those who wish to use it in their life.

    • EO, that is in fact true of any “therapeutic” activity or movement. How a person fares at the hands of any therapist, doctor, educator, priest, depends on the intention of the practitioner. Just about any practice or philosophy can be used for good or ill.

  10. Marty

    Yes, that is a very fine chapter indeed.

    Here is a little piece of something I came up with.

    At the point where I got a full conceptual understanding of the definition of responsibility (per “Responsibility, Definition of”) I felt incredibly empowered. There was no “shame, blame, or regret”, just an incredible feeling of self determined control.

    You see, I realized that my future was entirely up to me. I didn’t have to answer to anybody.

    I realized that if I was going to create my dynamics in the fashion that I conceive as optimum, I would have to truly create them myself, and take full responsibility for their creation. It does not matter what fate, or politics, or good fortune, or whatever, is thrown at me, (or that I create), It is still entirely up to me whether I achieve my goals for the dynamics or not. One thing that I looked at here was that , even if Scientology became unavailable for whatever reason, I am not willing to allow that to stop me. It is still my goal to obtain towards optimum across the dynamics, and it is me alone who is responsible to see that I achieve this goal.

    And one successful policy is to align myself with other entities and dynamics that I find assist me in this adventure and that I hopefully can somehow assist with theirs…

    And so you find me here…

    And an adventure it certainly is…

    Thank you all.

    Eric S

  11. Marty, I think you are awesome!

    My Scientology story is old and stale. I was devout, An early koolaid drinker (early by today’s standard, in 79, out 86). I am not sure how I feel about Scientology, or LRH. It changes minute by day.

    I appreciate your direction. And I want to tell you that you actually had a life changing effect on me. You posted a Buddha quote, and I am going to paraphrase but put it in quotes, so forgive me for that ” Holding on to anger is like taking poison and expecting it to kill the other guy”

    I follow you every day, although I no longer “Believe”. But thank you for that!
    I realized that I had been holding on to this grudge. It seemed very important. When you posted that quote I realized that I had been missing out on a very important person, because I was hanging onto anger. We have reunited, not that we agree, but I missed her. Thank youl

    It just takes me back to those old days, when I thought it was all about granting beingness. No judgement. What the hell went wrong?

  12. Just a bit of a sound off…

    Anyone who has left the COS simply to join another group with which to align one’s own personal stable data is going to have trouble. Trouble in life, trouble in the new group, etc.

    What is true for one is supposed to be what’s true for one’s self. Not simply what one can get agreement on.

    SCN is true to degree that it works. Other Sciences are true to degree that they work. Other religions are true for others to the degree that they help others.

    KSW, if understood CONCEPTULLY by COS members – in my opinion – would be applied this way “Okay, we agree that there is some other workable tech out there, but in the spirit of protecting against dilution of the religion AS WRITTEN, we’re just going to stick with this, and never combine or confuse…”

    But instead it’s used literally and is more like “No one else has any other answers. If you look elsewhere you are a heretic. If you imply there are answers elsewhere you are a splinter group. If you think an answer to life came from anyone other than LRH you are ‘other practicy’ ”

    In my opinion, that fact that COS demands that so much be seen only in black and white, when we all studied early in SCN that there can only be shades of grey, is part of what is wrong with the COS.

    SCN is supposed to make people more able to personally evaluate data and be one’s own maker. Part of what is wrong with the COS is how heavily it relies on and instills and actually requires the very “group think” that Dianetics and SCN was supposed to make unnecessary.

    I have read every word of every post on this blog since the beginning of it, as well as every word of Marty’s books. I find the OPINIONS and OBSERVATIONS of someone who has had his type of first-hand experiences, extremely helpful to my own understanding of things I haven’t been able to personally observe or experience.

    I happen to find it slightly embarrassing when I see comments that seem to indicate the person making the comment feels they have left one group with one leader simply to join another group with another leader, when from everything I’ve read and seen and experienced, that is not what independent Scientology is about.

    Last time I checked, Marty hadn’t started an org. He is simply the most high-profile member of a group of people who believe SCN is best-applied in the hands of the people, outside of the control of the corrupt monopoly that now seeks to use SCN as a control tool.

    In Marty’s latest book, the section about the Protestant Reformation really struck home for me. Knowing that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it, I was embarrassed that I hadn’t really known about this part of history and couldn’t help but think how many SCN’s – if they studied about this part of history would think “Oh shit, I think we’ve been making a mistake…”

    So anyway, to see that there are some folks who have left the corporate COS, but still feel there are ideas that should not be expressed or truths that should not be explored, I would venture to say that those people MIGHT be missing the point of independent Scientology. Just a thought.

    Some people feel It’s okay to throw the COS out the window but not okay to examine any shortcomings of LRH? Where’s the next Kool-Aid station?

    After everything that’s gone wrong in the Church, there’s no value examining EXACTLY how that occurred and what role LRH played in it? That’s too uncomfortable for some?

    The independent movement isnt supposed to be the 2nd Church of LRH. The COS wasn’t even supposed to become that. It only became that partly in an effort to contol people.

    If one is going to participate in the “protestant” reformation of SCN, it is my personal belief that there is value in examining the “when, how and who” of how the COS became the control tool that it is today.

    I feel that anyone who is offended by an effort to look at what role LRH played in that is still dramatizing the group-think instilled in the COS. Just my thoughts.

    It doesn’t make one LESS of an advocate of LRH’s tech to make such an examination.

  13. There are various means by which Scientology can be described.

    We can use plain old English, or we could dive deep into the Tech Dictionary, have a common vernacular derived from a mutual understanding of a technology, the mechanisms by which it is applied, and the means of measuring its successes, and speak hard-core PC-folder’ese.

    LRH described the phenomenon whereby those cultures which use Scientology language has to recognize that these various ‘language zones’ are based on Understanding. There are a few levels of the understanding of Scientology, based directly on the actual application of the word sets, which can be maintained by those wishing to discuss the subject, and it really does go from plain old English, to deep Technical Language.

    Scientology, like many other sciences, has developed its own vernacular and nomenclature as a matter of necessity. There are as many MU’s to be had in a Geologists Dictionary as there are in the Tech dictionary, and in many cases with other subject, many more yet undefined words to be discovered.

    In Scientology, the use of language is a very important topic, which a student of the subject will know full well is wraught with danger, adventure, and discovery.

    Those who call Scientology out as brainwashing, are ignoring their own peril at fate. Scientology is not brainwashing; it is brainUSING, because a true student of the subject will indeed have established a credible force of understanding of pretty much any subject a Human being can be, and is, willing to talk about.

    As a Scientologist, I find the reasoning that discrimination is a calculated inclusion of the topic to be a serious out-Indicator, because you don’t have to get far in Scientology, at all, before you’re supposed to have the Understanding that in fact discrimination of all forms is intolerable, and frankly is exactly the problem we are supposed to be Auditing out, as a group.

    Theta, and Operating Theta, has yet to full describe itself as a functioning force of will in the current, present moment in Time, in the zeitgeist of Now, if you will, but when it does .. “come online” .. so to speak, the actual group of OT’s that have been made will, hopefully, COMMUNICATE, instead of calling everyone Wogs, DB’s, and so on ..

    The careful study of the materials, in true honesty, demonstrates a very keen and avid desire to *prevent* discrimination, as a dramatization by the PC, from blowing. The way out is indeed the way through. Trained Auditors, attend to the PC.

  14. I’m not sure I’m clear on much, if there is a group within which back-channel natter is being spread, well that sounds great – that there is a group, I mean, a sphere where such events can occur. I personally avoid natter among closer circles, as much as possible, and if there is something I’ve said publicly that can be construed as negative criticism, I’d hope that doesn’t have a back-channel taste to it, at least.

    But I’d also hope there’d be some in the crowd who recognize second phenomenon, when they see it, and stop the buck-passing. No?

    It is a Basic tenet, isn’t it, to end third party behavior, realize the source of the problem (MU) and get it resolved? Hate starts with an MU. Second phenomenon is real, people. Got MU’s on it?

    And so the difficult thing about getting out and integrated as an Independent Scientologist is that, right now, you will incur lot of hate and disgust. So many people have MU’s on Xenu, and the RPF, and so on and on .. well of course this is tiring to an independent. For me the answer to the Church problem is: go ask the Church, otherwise .. TITS, and so on .. if you want MU’s, lets clear a few. EOS.

    I’m pretty sure there are some operating thetans out there in the broader society, independently integrating, and having a wonderful time. Wouldn’t it be a lovely surprise to discover a third and second SO unit, free from all the distractions of the world, making proper OT’s in loads and plenty ..

  15. Marty,
    The definition of Scientology is fundamentaly, “Knowing how to know”, correct? Therefore, Scientology gives one a key to understanding and aligning data in a great number of fields.
    Given that, how can anyone not see that the final goal is to open oneself to these other bodies of knowledge and not shutting them out?
    Why argue with what you are saying — like a few do?
    In my opinion, if one truly understood Scientology, then one would most definitely open oneself up to those other fields; one would study other practices and, using Scientology, as a “decoding device”, gain a deeper insight in what they have to teach.
    This is why I found this post rather interesting. There is a whole universe, outside of the walls of the CofS, that is both wonderful and terrifying — but actually I found it to be mostly wonderful — unlike the barren, black-or-white environment of the Miscavige-regime Sea Org.
    I know you and I, Marty, do not know each other very well. Still, I have been a regular follower of your blog for the last 3 years. I have come to a sort of limited understanding of “where you are coming from” (I say “limited” because, without actual live interaction, complete understanding is impossible, in my VP); I agree with it without any weird expectations from you.
    Even though I do not consider myself a Scientologist anymore, SCN has been such a central part of my life that it will be always a part of me.
    I know this may come out strange, but you are my only line — the only line I can trust at this time — to this body of data, because you talk about those things I also think to be true: integration, tolerance and, yes, humbleness — I strongly believe it takes humbleness to wield a powerful technology like Scientology.
    These are not qualities the CofS manifests, even though they profess they do.
    Bottom line: Do I care what “direction” you seem to be taking? No. Just keep on writing, please!

    • flavp, yours here is a well put sum up:
      The definition of Scientology is fundamentaly, “Knowing how to know”, correct? Therefore, Scientology gives one a key to understanding and aligning data in a great number of fields.
      Given that, how can anyone not see that the final goal is to open oneself to these other bodies of knowledge and not shutting them out?

      • Before I was ever interested in Scientology, I was interested in philosophy. As LRH defined it in My Philosophy, it’s “the love, study or pursuit of wisdom, or of knowledge of things and their causes, whether theoretical or practical.” He continued, “The first principle of my own philosophy is that wisdom is meant for anyone who wishes to reach for it.” “The second principle of my own philosophy is that it must be capable of being applied.” “The third principle is that any philosophic knowledge is only valuable if is true or if it works.” “These three principles are so strange to the field of philosophy, that I have given my philosophy a name: SCIENTOLOGY. This means only “knowing how to know.”

        I have never forgotten that “Scientology” is just a name for A philosophy, and that philosophy itself, the pursuit of wisdom, is more fundamental than Scientology. Saying that Scientology is better or truer than another philosophy, or the opposite, is silly. Just be interested in what works. Philosophy is my interest, wherever I may find it. “For I know no man who has any monopoly on the wisdom of this universe. It belongs to those who can use it to help themselves and others.”

      • p.s. The first principle is completely violated by being unaffordable to 99% of the planet. EPIC FAIL.

  16. Just as the world of physics feels the need for a “Theory of Everything”, the literal Scnist feels they already have it in Scn. Once you have knowingly or unknowingly adopted the Scientology Theory of Everything, you have no reason to look at anything else. This can be enforced to Must Not Look, and Must Not Allow Others To Look. I’ve experienced this on many flows, and have done it myself.

    I’m not sure why there has to be a “Theory of Everything”, seems like an arbitrary to me, possibly even a fixed idea.

    I suppose there is comfort to believe that one has “found” a theory of everything; but, instead of salvation, it becomes your prison. A most insidious prison, because you are convinced it is freedom. And, by Gawd, I’m gonna make you see the light just like I did, even if it kills ya. When critics start accusing Scn of brainwashing I think this is what they are picking up on.

    In my opinion, LRH warned us of this, but at the same time I think inadvertently contributed to it. I also get the feeling that maybe LRH felt obligated to solve everything himself, or others expected him to. I mean the guy wrote a reference on how to properly clean windows. On the list of philosophic discoveries, that’s pretty much everything.

    • “I suppose there is comfort to believe that one has “found” a theory of everything; but, instead of salvation, it becomes your prison. A most insidious prison, because you are convinced it is freedom. And, by Gawd, I’m gonna make you see the light just like I did, even if it kills ya.”

      Good stuff, statpush.

  17. Marty, I think you have nailed it. A divergence took place in the real-world establishment of the organizations of Scientology as early as the 1960s and 1970s. There was a “road not taken”, and the way that was taken somehow led to DM and the current scene.

    What has always struck me are the parallels to at least a couple of other religions, Christianity and Islam. Both of those essentially succumbed to fascist tendencies in their history; Islam is still struggling with these.

    All indications are Christianity was originally basically a “gnostic” movement and philosophy, that is, one based on direct and immediate experience of truth and freedom, rather than on submissive faith in a better “hereafter” someday in the future, “but just continue to pay your taxes now and don’t make waves”. Islam also had it’s “gnostic” elements which were persecuted (Sufis).

    OK, my point is that clearly the original Christian teachings were seen as a threat by established secular rulers and “powers that be”. This is historically documented in books such as Elaine Pagels’ “Beyond Belief”.

    The leaders of Christianity were quite overtly told by the kings and emperors of the time, “Cool it or we will exterminate you and all your followers.” Back then, they had the unchecked power of life and death over everyone in their domains.

    The result was the Christian scriptures were alter-ised (altered, changed), mainly by removal of the gnostic elements and a shifting of the emphasis towards a “religion of faith and belief”, ie a religion of sheeplike obedience. In Islam, there was apparently a tension from early times, between the “orthodox” Islamists who were part of the secular establishment and supported the ruling Caliphs and such, and the gnostic Sufis, who were sometimes summarily put to death for being too outspoken. Of course the reason they were so outspoken was because their gnostic experiences of truth removed their fear of death. This is precisely why secular powers do not like gnostic teachings – they make the people unafraid.

    I tend to think LRH’s struggles to “establish” the survival of CoS organizations were colored by similar considerations. Once the very survival of one’s “symbiotes” (DMSMH) is threatened, the end(survival) begins to justify the means used to achieve it. The alternative can be martyrdom..

    So yes, LRH initiated some trends and policies that have resulted in CoS becoming a fascist state. But this reality was co-created inspite of other, senior, LRH policies, such as maintaining good relations with the environment and delivering what was promised. The responsibility for this seems to me to lay with the co-creators who went much too far in cherry-picking the LRH policies and interpretations they have chosen to follow.

    The US government could have in fact squashed the Scientology movement like a bug. This was somehow averted, but apparently at great cost to the quality and original spirit of Scientology, just as happened to the other religions I mentioned.

    We are now responsible for sorting it out and infusing Scientology with the original spirit it was intended to have, benign, helpful, truthful, and effective. This cannot be accomplished by individuating and isolating ourselves in a cult. Thus “integration”, which simply means spreading it, using it, throughout societies. This has nothing to do with “watering it down” or changing it. It is in fact the CoS that has watered it down, changed it, and suppressed Scientologists into no longer engaging with society in any constructive ways. Certainly that wasn’t LRH’s original intent!

    • I think there ought to be an investigation into the nature of the external influences brought to bear upon the Church of Scientology, International, personnel and finance lines by such groups as the Mormon Church, the Roman Catholic Church, and so on .. A lot of “ex-Mormons” can be found all over key positions in the Church during the 80’s, 90’s .. and even yet still today. Whether an overt or covert campaign, or just by stint of cultural osmosis, I see a lot of parallels in the dramatizations of many Int staff, and their ex-religions. Roman Catholics being specifically targetted, on Int Clearance lines, for more sec-checking about masturbation and out-2D, for example, as a means of ‘softening up the PC for the CSW'; endlessly *top secret elite* groups forming around the command channels, and so on.. this is not actually Scientology practice. We can see a lot of other religious influence in the SO Board Policy Directives, and so on, published throughout the ages.

      Key to me was the decision to prevent all SO members from having families; I believe this atrocious policy is the direct result of an un-seen, hidden religious battle going on, within Church lines. Real warfare.

  18. What is there to integrate? Scientology was born on the back of the Dynamics which per every Scientology reference Ron ever wrote are defined by yourself. You get to decide how many kids and how much compassion and what kind of hobbies and what your contribution to the Dynamics should be.

    So then people let Miscavige and others in the Sea Org define their Dynamics for them. Let them drop all compassion and pracctically disregard all the Dynamics except the Church completely. So people let the Sea Org run their lives and do this to them. And now we are supposed to blame Ron for all this?

    Re psychiatry, I agree with all Ron’s criticial comments about it. Yet I disagree with the Church’s emphasis on it. There is such a thing as an admin scale and the PURPOSE of orgs are to deliver auditing and training. So I know Ron would disagree with it too just as any thinking Scientologist would.

    You know, Ron also said that people like ice cream. Perhaps the Church should embark on a crusade to promote ice cream?

    No, I disagree entirely with this latest drive to blame Ron for our own stupidity.
    steve spargo

    • Thanks Steve. Can you tell me what you are referring to by ‘this latest drive to blame Ron for our own stupidity.’?

      • Well, prompted in this way, I agree that “drive” is too strong a word for the ideas that are expressed here. To clarify, I’ll make these points:

        a. Scientology does not lack compassion. It rides on the fundamental that greater survival can only be achieved by greater affinity, understanding and responsibility for others. This was released into a world that thought survival meant “dog eat dog”. I don’t want to integrate Scientology back into a “dog eat dog” world.

        b. Scientology makes no attempt to define our Dynamics for us. They are always expressed as categories of purposes and Ron always said emphasis can and is assigned by individuals themselves. One of the most shocking aspects of this whole business is that I could be so inspired by such enlightened empowerment of the individual and then allow myself to be blackmailed by the Church into abandoning that view.

        Before Scientology the world was an unattractive place where people had little understanding of what they were trying to achieve and had practically zero technology of achieving it beyond the barrel of a gun. So I don’t want to integrate Scientology back into something that always lacked compassion, that always encouraged inter-personal strife and fomented wars. I want to see a greater attainment of the ideals and understanding that Scientology truly expresses.

        steve

      • Having had my say after getting all excited about some minor disagreements in this post, I would have to say my comments don’t communicate my feelings about this too well and that I support the majority of what Marty is saying here. The Dynamics are what people are doing and Scientologists can assuredly take lessons from non-Scientologists on this subject.

        The point that gets me a little het up is that before Scientology we were all doing our darndest to get our Dynamics on the road and it just wasn’t flying. In spite of all our most sincere intentions and earnest efforts, the world kept disintegrating about us in violent explosions. Incredibly high rates of divorce and marital unhappiness. Wars killing millions of people. Corruption and tyranny on every corner. Individually, the community is just chock full of failed purposes, out-ruds and illness. That’s the present … and the future doesn’t look very encouraging either.

        Scientology is the first subject to point out the basic issue causing all this trouble. The reactive mind. Then it developed methods of handling it.
        The value of this subject to man is inestimable.

        After what has just happened, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel to point out wrongnesses in Scientology – or the practitioners thereof. But I long for a more sympathetic view of Scientology which is based on the potentials of the subject rather than the goofs we have just perpetrated in “our Church”.

        • Thanks Steve, understood.

        • “” But I long for a more sympathetic view of Scientology which is based on the potentials of the subject rather than the goofs we have just perpetrated in “our Church”.””

          You are not alone, Steve. There is factually nothing stopping you and me, for example, from finding 5 or 7 or 10 others, to found our own Class VI Org, to deliver the materials and Grade Chart freely, without suppression or complications or having to have before one can do, and so on. We could do it, in this day and age.

          I suggest we do it on a boat. Got time for that?

  19. Marty, I very much appreciate this post. Especially this: “most importantly – remember that no matter what the question, the answer is ‘love.’ ”

    I have not read your books, which is why I never comment about them. It just seems that I am not part of your intended audience. So, it’s not my concern. Thus, I am so glad I got the chance to read this excerpt. The Chocolate Velvet is such a goofy romantic, and the love you and Monique share shines through your words so beautifully.

    You and she are truly blessed, to have that kind of love. It’s rare in this world, and hard to grow. Thanks for this, and the poems, and the philosophical musings. There seems to be a more personal tone in some of your posts, and I enjoy seeing more of Marty, the whole person. After all, the person is the product of the process, you might say. I think the best way to witness for what you believe is to live your life in fullness and express yourself openly so others can see and gauge for themselves. :)

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  21. Love your post Marty

  22. Marty,
    Great Post. I have never had anyone reject the ideas of Scientology when honestly stated by me. I have only met agreement. I always sought to make alignment with what philosophy I read before, during, and after joining Scientology, so I rejected the idea that ‘nothing else works’. In my actual experience, nothing stands close in actual practice, but preaching/enforcing such doesn’t create ARC with others but only separates as you have stated.

    I also reject the idea that psychiatry is the root of all crime. That is absurd since crime has been around longer than pyschiatry. Even when Ron says it is the sole destruction of this sector he is over generalizing it. All evil intentioned beings who mess with the minds and intentions of others are not from one oranization called psychiatry. An evil being is an evil being and will pop up anywhere, but this same evil doer was not always so. If anyone feels they deserve a halo, speak up. Besides, what wisdom from anywhere suggests that one should endlessly attack his opponents, either real or imagined, in an effort to create more good in the world. It is like bombs creating peace. I guess if one’s idea of peace is death, then bombs work.

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