Luis and Rocio Garcia vs. The Machine

From the author of a Letter From Garcia, please see a Lawsuit from the Garcias.  Updates forthcoming.

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see also: Rocio’s story

191 responses to “Luis and Rocio Garcia vs. The Machine

    • I think all these major news networks carrying this story may be the first time Miscavige’s Super Power fraud has been exposed so widely across the world. (Other than Marty’s website, Steve’s website, Tony Ortega, etc. of course)
      Am I correct in saying that?
      Regardless, I’ve got a gut feeling this thing is going to reach a hell of a lot of high roller kool aid drinkers and the statistic of New Names to Marty’s Blog (NNMB) will go into an Affluence on long trend that will teach Miscavige a lesson on what Straight Up and Vertical really is!

  1. Even as an independent who have never been to the church I would like to thank you guys for stepping up to the bat, from the bottom of my heart!
    Thank you Luis and Rocio! It must require a lot of confront to be on the front line and I admire you courage! May you guys have all the odds in your favor.

  2. Every time I see the word “Scientology” in articles like this, I am filled with outrage at what DM has allowed our religion to become.

    Scientology, The Subject .. is distinct from “Scientology, the Church”, yet the conflation is made.

    I’m hoping this court case is the first crack that makes the divide between the behaviour of the Church of Scientology, and that of Scientologists, very clear.

    If there were ever a time for the Independent scene to get its PR guns out and start promoting far and wide the creation of Clears, OTs, and Auditors, that time would be now.

    We must – WE MUST – work diligently as Scientologists to ensure that Scientology, The Subject, becomes a far better understood topic, and that the Church of Scientology, and its criminal leadership, ends up in jail for their crimes.

    I say that disassociation is the new order. We, Scientologists, applying Scientology, *must* stick to our guns and ensure that the religion itself, followed correctly, would have *never* produced such a vile element as DM and his Minions, if it were actually being *applied*.

  3. Muy Bien Hecho Luis y Rocio!!
    In my opinion, everyone who is still contributing to the survival of the Church of Scientology aka David Miscavige, should be considered co-conspirators in this clear case of Misrepresentation and Fraud.

    Wake Up Kool Aid addicts! You have not only been aiding and abetting David Miscavige’s criminal activities, but you have effectively been helping destroy Scientology, or whatever is left of it. Withdraw your support. That’s the only chance you have of redeeming yourself and becoming a decent human being. The Truth is out there and it will soon come crashing down on YOU, as well as David Miscavige.

  4. While the complaints of violence towards Sea Org members at the hands of Miscavige may not have had an impact on many public scientologists, this lawsuit will. Every public member can relate to being bombarded with aggressive ‘requests’ for donations for this cause or that activity (ie, the superpower building, distributing the ‘Way to Happiness” booklets). Because they can relate to it, they will most likely realize they are not alone in feeling like they were duped by their own church which is something many of them have probably never talk about openly. They were simply to afraid to talk about it due to the fear that they would be reported. This lawsuit validates the feeling that they were being lied to about where the money was going. Win or lose, this will no doubt have an impact on those who are considering joining the corporate church as well as those who are already in it. Combine this lawsuit & Debbie’s Cooks letter and you realize the month of January hasn’t been Miscavige favorite time of year. This is going to help public scientologist make the decision to go independent. I predict, that for many this will be the proverbial straw that will break the camels back.

  5. Message to Miscavige:

    Yes, you ARE going to be found out.
    One alternative is to confess, make atonement, and avoid a rout.
    Or cut and run like you did last time.
    As far as I’m concerned, that would be just fine.
    This is just the beginning ….your attorney knows.
    And by the way are ready for the Pro’s?
    You can’t torture them like the poor little ants
    Time to put on your big boy pants.
    Remember when Sugar Ray kicked your ass?
    Well, now check out now the no-look pass.
    This is a game I would never miss
    And by the way, Y’all Ready For This?

  6. markthehungarian

    I was hopeful that Debbie Cook would not be muted by a settlement, but she was. I understand her choice, of course, and do not judge her for it. She was under immense pressure and wanted to get on with her life.

    With this, I also hope the Garcias get to court although with the CoS track record, I think this is unlikely. I have no doubt that the Garcias will win, whether by being awarded a settlement or simply by getting the case into a courtroom.

    Regardless of the eventual outcome, this suit brought by the Garcias (and the Debbie Cook case) makes it far more likely that others wronged by the Church of Scientology will gain the fortitude to take on the Church themselves.

    I think it’s premature to break out the popcorn and the champagne… the Church of Scientology still acts abominably and has its claws in many pies and souls… but it’s just one more problem that David Miscavige has to control and micro-manage, therefore it’s one more problem that David Miscavige will turn into a massive fuck-up. So that *is* something to look forward to.

    Like many on this blog and elsewhere, I would love to take a peek into the books for the Superpower Building. How much money has been collected? Where has that money gone? Fingers crossed the dodgy Florida legal system decides to stick up for the little man rather than be the whore of big business.

    • Oh, ……………………………………………………………………………………………
      YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. One reason these oppressive regimes eventually fail is that all the competent leaders are either squashed or have left. Up through the 80’s one thing that impressed me most about Scientology was what good leaders we had. Today Scientology management operates like a bunch of idiots with the chief idiot making one stupid move after another.

    This lawsuit has the potential to have a huge impact. I hope justice is served.

  8. EnthralledObserver

    Does anyone else enjoy the delicious IRONY of the fact that in order to defend himself and his fraud of a church, or indeed settle this suit outside court should that happen, Mismanage will be executing more of the fraud he’s been accused of… i.e. spending parishoner’s donations on projects that weren’t what the money was intended for by the donators.. ???

    Irony is delicious, innit? lol.

  9. The story is also on the MSN home page.

  10. When will the United States of America Law and Law enforcement Agencies begin to help and protect US law abiding, tax paying Citizens who are victims of criminals who hide behind the Constitution’s First Amendment such as the case of the Church of Scientology, who’s leader one David Miscavige has blatantly been defrauding thousands of his parishioners for at least 20 years

    • As soon as it is in the interest of a well connected and crafty politician or lobbyist or any of those shady characters. Otherwise keep dreamin ….

  11. Karma is a bitch and it’s never going to stop coming for the crazed sociopath David Miscavige. Luis and Rocio have gotta be some of bravest souls I know. Good luck!

  12. Continuation:
    for at least 20 years with impunity while his criminal organization always claims First Ammendment rights when confronted? Shouldn’t the IRS begin to realize that their ruling giving the Church of Scientology non-profit status was a mistake?
    For some time there has been overhelming evidence showing that this individual David Miscavige has not only been selling non-existent products to his parishioners for years, that he has never delivered what he sold to unsuspecting followers, but he has also physically abused and imprisoned his staff when they didn’t agree with his methods. Yet, when he gets taken to court for his crimes, he always claims First Ammendent rights as a (very rich) religion and the courts rule in his favour or dismiss the case on grounds of First Ammendment rights. And Mr Miscavige gets away with it, regardless of damming evidence that should have landed him and his organization in or close to time in jail, plus reparations.

    Perhaps we should all be reminded of what the First Ammendment says, so that one and all can correctly evaluate wheter the Church of Scientology should be protected by it:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”

    The Church of Scientology is regarded as a religion (and therefore tax exempt) and not a criminal cult led by a corrupt, criminal individual only because the US Government says so. Plenty of evidence exists to prove that the US government is protecting a criminal organization.
    Comments welcome.
    Alex

  13. Karma: The causes and conditions that come together to form an event …

    The CAUSES (over regging, fraudulent promises, IRS agreements etc) and CONDITIONS (the Truth Rundown St. Pete Times, Anderson Cooper 360, Marty’s blog, various expose books and now Lawrence Wright’s book (however flawed) have come together AT THIS PARTICULAR point in time to bring TO the public view (drum roll)

    The Garcia lawsuit.

    It always about timing. And one would almost think – someone timed this filing with some thought.

    Ya think?

    My thanks to the Garcia’s for willingly putting themselves at the forefront on what appears to be the start of the dismantling of the “Berlin Wall of Scientology” — and remember, once it started to come down, it was gone almost overnight.

  14. Well, I guess declaring people of good will suppressive and attempting to shun and silence them just doesnt work on OT’s.

  15. Wow, he has to be going nuts. Remember how furious he was that he was involved in the Lisa McPherson case. God knows what he is doing to those who are yessing him to death.

  16. Thank you Luis and Rocio. Curiously I just noticed that the story was an editors pick (front and center) on my MSN home page. I clicked on the story briefly and went back to my home page and it had vanished entirely as news,

  17. “Man would run better entirely unmanaged than in the hands of an authoritarian management, for the end of such management is group death”.
    LRH, An Essay on Management.

  18. You are my Hero Luis! This one is for YOU CAPITANO!

  19. When 911 happened, IAS registrars were out in full force scrounging for donations. We didn’t have a lot of money at that point, but decided to pay for airline tickets and some food money for a couple of people. We gave the money directly to them, not the IAS. I can’t help but wonder how much of that entire project was funded by direct donations such as ours, and how much IAS donations were taken for it, but never spent.

    Ten years ago I had little thought about where my money was going. Today I have no doubt that I’ve been conned over and over again. We gave $25 to superpower and zero to the idle org program. I knew from the outset that these projects were grossly off policy and refused to contribute. I did get totally sucked in on the IAS scam, though.

    I paid $20K directly to that scam. I do believe I have a right to see the books and determine if my donations were fraudulently taken. I’m hoping that at least one result of this lawsuit is that the courts order miscavige to open the books.

    I wonder if the shredders are working overtime at Int Base right now?

  20. Thanks Luis and Rocio. If there’s anything I can do from way up North, let me know.

  21. The land of the FREE and the HOME of the BRAVE! BELIEVE IT!

    THIS is what Hubbard expected to see of a Scientologist! STAND UP AND FIGHT DAY! I don’t care if they settle! I don’t care if they lose! I do not care what the outcome of this is. The noble , courageous, holy, matter is, they are alert and fighting back! THAT IS THE PRICE of FREEDOM! Look at the chains on all of these “OT’s” and “Sea Org” staff who NOT IS this criminality. They ARE not Free! They are NOT fighting for Scientology! No matter what the certs say no matter what rank or class!

    FREEDOM IS CONSTANT ALERTNESS AND WILLINGNESS TO FIGHT BACK! EVERY FREEDOM IS FOUGHT FOR!

    I stepped forward TEN YEARS AGO to face this, and NOBODY would stand behind me! People WHO KNEW about the FRAUD! Public that KNEW they were defrauded! They TOLD me THEY KNEW! But they were afraid of the Church! The F.B.I. told me to take a hike! I would NEVER get a witness they said! NOBODY would EVER come forward they said!

    Well, they were wrong.

    I have difficulty projecting myself into small units of time. Like, “today” or “this year” etc. My quest is always to do something today that a future me will thank me for. To do things today that will matter 10,000 years from now. Create effects that transcend time, and matter. To manage efforts like these one only need to focus on a small cornerstone in the structure of this universe and shift it in some way. For instance, the writer Victor Hugo did this with his books. He focused in on certain aspects of culture that were harmful and manifested them in tales and characters that allowed people to realize this for themselves. He shifted the culture in France with Les Miserables, into a culture with mercy. If you take a good look around you, much of what you see was not put there today. It was something started long ago. Even the language you speak.

    Right here, right now, you begin to see the effects of a cornerstone in this Scientology Inc. madness that Marty began to confront.

    Luis and Rocia Garcia have focused on another on.

    We ARE shifting this business from a great wrongness into a great RIGHTNESS!

    My deepest gratitude for the HOPE you generate with your willingness to fight back, to EVERYBODY HERE!

    You ARE my miracle!

    • “THIS is what Hubbard expected to see of a Scientologist! STAND UP AND FIGHT DAY!’

      Exactly!…It’s time to stop just pounding our fingers on a keyboard and step up if you are a person of influence and can change this situation. For those of us who are not big names or opinion leaders we can offer financial support or do ground work that supports these leaders.

      I will lead off with a promise of a $5000.00 donation to any coordinated effort by Scientologists to bring the fight to David Miscaviage. Marty can see my name on my email and is free to call me out if I don’t back up what I say here today.

      • How is that for some action for you?

        • Not all of us can be or are needed directly on the front lines.

          When Debbie Cook needed help I was not asked to show up (action) in San Antonio to be part of an effort to help I was able to donate however and so my action could only extend that far.

          Any group action taken will define for me to what extent I can be directly involved. Financial or ancillary support may be all that is asked of a good many people in a 3D effort.

          This is the third time recently Tiger I have heard from you in a one line make-nothing-of effort. You write well enough but I suspect that all the action that can ever be expected from you is what you and your Intel Pentium chip can produce on a computer screen.

        • Tiger, who would you rather line up behind as an opinion leader, Ms. Debbie Cook or Ms Sarah Kelly?

          Who is Ms Sarah Kelly? She is a waitress who works at a Denny’s just outside Barstow, California. She completed a Communication Course in 1978 and has been pretty happy ever since.

          Would you diminish her effort to help if she recognized in herself the lack of credentials to be leader and could only provide some of her tip money in an effort to show support?

  22. Probably two sets of Books.
    One set never to see the light of day, the other for the Courts jurors
    and judges.
    D.M. will undoubtably try for an 8 figure hush money payoff,ala Debbie Cook.
    If D.M.takes the stand he will be dressed in Show Rags carrying the cardboard box he swears he sleeps in under a freeway overpass whilest trying to save humanity and hitch hiked to the courtroom.

  23. Just getting him to a deposition would be fantastic and getting him to lose his temper would be even better. He might be able to control himself physically, but I have a feeling the blood would rush to his face throughout the deposition, since he believes he is above it all – true malignant narcissist. This is getting interesting.
    Maybe one day I will turn on the TV and will see a newsflash “David Miscavige going into deposition”. Well if we are going to dream lets dream all the way “David Miscavige being led away in handcuffs” after being found guilty of fraud” More charges to come. Stay tuned in for latest developments.

    • The Deposition:

      “Mr. Miscavige, I have here a copy of LRH ED 301 INT, dated 17 Dec. 1978.

      It states, among other things, “Super Power will be delivered at Saint Hills within the next six weeks…”

      Can you present the written orders from L Ron Hubbard changing this plan to a Flag Only Rundown to be delivered in an ungodly ostentatious, 200 million dollar building?”

      Pause for reply…

  24. I hope you aren’t offended by this question Marty and remembering that I myself have never been a Scientologist but…

    Would you be willing to testify against Miscavige in this or any other case if asked ?

    Thank you :)

  25. Accidently,

    Oh house-builder! You are seen, you shall build no house for me again. All your rafters are broken, your roof-tree is destroyed. My mind has reached the unconditioned; the end of craving has been attained. (Dhammapada Verse 154)

    ML/A

  26. Super Power was made into a Cash Cow. Gobal emergencys and
    natural disasters likewise Cash Cows for D.M. Getting Miscavige on the witness stand under oath would be monumental, Like Capt. Queeg’s
    melt down in the “Caine Mutiny”
    Louis you are naking History. Godspeed

  27. Luis,
    you opened the eyes of thousands with your letter and now you and your wife are opening the door to a real handling of the so called “Church”.
    Kudos to you both.
    You courage and integrity is really admirable.

  28. I just went back to view some of the old videos of Rath and Rinder did, whilst fishing & relaxing…….. We need some more.

    So guys, go and get you rod & video camera!

    BMO

  29. All this negative press (or positive depending on your viewpoint) along with the lawsuit reminds me of the movie “10 things I hate about you.” Near the end, the guy dressed up all “Shakespearean” says “The Shit-eth hath hit-eth the fan,” ain’t that the truth of it here?

    I wonder if we’ll see the Superpower building open up now. They could run the most loyal robots through so they could rave about it and talk about the unprecedented expansion of Scientology.

    The Chinese postulate is coming true, we do live in interesting times.

  30. Was ‘regging’ a part of the old Scientology (of LRH) or is it a creation of the new Scientology (of DM)?

    • The word “regging” is derrived from “registration”.
      And in old times you could register someone ONLY for service (i.e. training and auditing).
      IAS registration is in itself a wrong use of the word. If they’re a Membership organisation only, they should collect Membership fees instead as there is nothing (no service) anyone could be registered for.

      • Here are some random questions from the “REGISTRAR AND SALES PERSONNEL CONFESSIONAL LIST”
        (emphasis mine)

        3. HAVE YOU EVER FORCED ANOTHER INTO BUYING SOMETHING HE DIDN’T WANT? _________

        10. HAVE YOU EVER FALSELY PRESENTED A SERVICE OR PRODUCT IN ORDER TO MAKE A SALE? _________

        11. HAVE YOU EVER LIED IN ORDER TO CLOSE A SALE? _________

        14. HAVE YOU EVER MADE A SALE THAT WAS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PROSPECT? _________

        15. HAVE YOU EVER SOUGHT OUT WEALTHY PUBLIC AND SOLD THEM SERVICES THEY DID NOT NECESSARILY NEED OR REGGED THEM FOR “DONATIONS” WHICH WERE NOT REALLY FOR ANY ORG SERVICE? _________

        16. HAVE YOU PERSUADED A PROSPECT TO PAY FOR SERVICES WITH MONEY WHICH DID NOT BELONG TO HIM, THEREBY CREATING A “PTS A” SITUATION FOR THE PROSPECT?

        19. HAVE YOU EVER MADE A PROSPECT WRONG? _________

        20. HAVE YOU EVER ARC BROKEN A PROSPECT? _________

        22. HAVE YOU EVER FAILED TO REPAIR AN UPSET WITH A PROSPECT? _________

        27. HAVE YOU EVER HINDERED A PERSON’S PROGRESS THROUGH SCIENTOLOGY? _________

        60. HAVE YOU NEGLECTED PEOPLE YOU THOUGHT DIDN’T HAVE MUCH MONEY?

        62. HAVE YOU KNOWINGLY TAKEN MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD NOT BE DELIVERED? _________

        From HCOB OF 12 NOV 1980 Issue II.

        Miscavige, eat dust. Seriously.

      • It is more along the lines of a BILKING FEE!

    • Larry,
      In my experience (from early 80’s to late 90’s) there was always a bit of hard-sell regging going on for you to buy services. They were always very unapologetic about it and you just realized that was part of the culture. But… in the 90’s they started regging for donations without selling you a service. It was this huge demand for donations to the IAS (International Association of Scientologists) then in the early 2000’s huge push for money to buy new buildings. If you read this blog you’ll see that this has a lot to do with parishioners starting to question the motivation and then perhaps turning to the internet followed by a realization and validation of many problems with the corporate church.

  31. A note to the lunatic at the top of all the lunacy.

    Here’s a world-wide viral video that showed all the warts on your ass.

    Have another double dave. You really earned it.

  32. This is a picture of dm’s head blowing up!!

  33. I am going to make this appeal again for those who may not have considered it.

    I strongly suggest that we do not forward the church’s nonsense positioning of LRH writings as “Scriptures”, or “religious texts”, “church doctrine”, or any other such false and misleading statements that tend to “religionize” LRH writings. When we do so we are contributing to a HUGE lie. I totally doubt that Ron ever imagined that his writings would be called “scriptures”.

    Condoning this or forwarding it plays right into Miscavige’s hands, Once everything LRH wrote is deemed as “religious” documents, then everything that is said therein is placed outside of the reach of US law, and cannot be legally challenged.

    Please… Let’s not contribute to this perversion of the truth. I’ll bet David Miscavige smiles every time we do. It effectively helps him to bury many of his most heinous crimes.

    Eric S

    • Quick question, if I may.

      What about Scientology Policy Directive 58, dated 6 November 1982, entitled “Scriptures Defined?”

      Scientology Policy Directive 58, dated 6 November 1982, entitled “Scriptures Defined,” provides in relevant part:

      ************************************************************************

      “In Scientology , terminology the term “scriptures” means the writings and recorded spoken words of L. Ron Hubbard with respect to Scientology applied religious philosophy (including Dianetics spiritual healing technology) and Scientology organizations.TM. The term covers Bulletins, Policy Letters, Tapes, Books and other means by which LRH has expressed Scientology religious philosophy and Dianetics spiritual technology. The Scriptures of Scientology include all of the doctrines, tenets, codes, axioms and Creed of Scientology.

      Policy Letters are included as part of the Scriptures and together with other portions of the Scriptures are the polity (form of government of a nation, state, Church or organization) and constitution (the system of fundamental laws and principles that govern a nation or organization or the document expressing these laws) of the Churches of Scientology.”

      ***********************************************************************

      Is it your position that this Policy Directive is invalid? That ALL Policy Directives are invalid?

    • Eric,

      The religious nature of Scientology is not the problem. The right of Free Exercise inures to the individual, NOT the church.

      What is it in the documents of the church that you wish to legally challenge? All you have to do is challenge it, deny it, renounce it, and walk away. Under the First Amendment, you are free to do that at any time. (Not so with psychiatry, for example. You can be committed, because it is not a religion and you are not protected under the First Amendment).

      The religious nature of Scientology is not an invention or fabrication, and it is not Miscavige’s idea. It’s not good to mess with people like LRH, the Founding Fathers, and King Kong. I’m not ‘calling you out’ on the net – I just think there is a mistake in what you urge. I’m not tactfully-proficient all the time, I apologize for that.

      Carcha

      • Carcha, CommunicatorIC

        I actually wasn’t stating this plea because I had anything within LRHs writings that I wanted to challenge legally.

        Just as an example though, of what I speak.

        Suppose that you want your money back from the church and the LRH policy on this is being included as “church doctrine”. Now you decide to demand, legally, that the church follow its own policy, and return your money. The courts won’t touch it as it is a challenge of a “Religious” practice. (in the way that you are challenging it.) I note with great satisfaction that the Garcias have avoided this by approaching it as a totally secular matter and are not challenging what “church” policy states, but rather breaches of civil law.)

        I agree that Scientology is a Religious philosophy.

        I had never seen the policy directive that “Communicator IC” has quoted from. (though, if it is not green on white [ literally] I believe it is only valid for a year, unless reissued,) In any case it invalidates my claim that Ron never said such a thing. I live and learn.

        I understand why Ron likely forwarded that policy, but I gotta tell you, damn… it sure sticks in my crop.

        Carcha, I do understand the part about how removing the religious status of Scientology totally leaves the practice of the philosophy of Scientology, and its tech, open to legal restriction. This of course opens the door to allowing those of ill will to attempt to crush the practice of perhaps one of the most important spiritual philosophies to date. I believe it is already far too late to totally crush it out of existence, but it sure could be set back for a time.

        So… Point taken. Perhaps some day my revulsion to the use of those terms will be “run out”. Perhaps part of my protest is due to being annoyed that such a stance, in order to safeguard the technologies and their practice, was required in the first place.

        Anyway… Thanks for you viewpoints.

        Eric S

        • Eric – Just in case you check back here, I don’t know the line between “internal documents” and “published policy”. I’m very happy you got my points – sorry if I misread or misinterpreted your post, and I have no problem avoiding the long words “religious scriptures” (HCOB is much easier). I share your revulsion for the “legal stance”, but apparently this is what lawyers do and is to be taken as proforma gesticulation “My client is not guilty” (followed by news at 11 video showing the “alleged” murder from three angles in hi-res color). Fortunately we are not tasked with all the precision and caution attorneys shoulder. As for the future of Scn, imo, Pandora’s box was opened with the first session, and the first E/S that blew charge. What a moment that must have been, eh? Onward and upward. – Carcha.

  34. This lawsuit goes right to the heart of the issues. I wish the best to the Garcia’s and others who will also sue.

  35. Seein’ as how we’ve got some videos posted here, while this one is still on YouTube, Bob Dylan and Eric Clapton put on one of the smoothest most memorable performances of “Don’t Think Twice, It’s Alright” … and somehow, listening to it, it seems appropriate to sing to the Co$ … “Goodbye’s too good a word, babe ….”

    Carcha

  36. Dm’s next exec meeting at the Int base hole.

  37. A very applicable LRH reference:

    Attitude and Conduct of Scientology
    4th London ACC, 3 November 1955
    From Pages 1-4 (transcript)
    :
    “The next thing we’ve learned [in the first 5 years of active organization] is that organizational problems are best resolved by Scientology and that there are exactly two methods by which personnel can be handled – two methods. And these are very sharp and very definitive, organizationally. They are handled in one of these two ways…
    The two ways of handling those who are not getting something done is, one, process them and, two, disconnect them from the organization but not from Scientology. Got that?”
    [LRH then clarifies that we assume these people are Scientologists.]
    #####
    “But we do not, I repeat, do not, separate them from Scientology or Scientology organizations, nor at any moment fail to give them organizational support or cooperation in the starting of any new activity in which they wish to engage for the benefit of Scientology. You got that?
    “In other words, the arduous lesson along this line is that no-communication lists, revocation/suspension of certificates, court action of any kind whatsoever within the realm of Scientology and so forth, is not only – not only difficult to do but does not work. That’s just the end of it. It just doesn’t work.It’s for the sea gulls. That might work in Gestetner Limited or Westinghouse, but it does not work in Scientology. Got that?”
    …”When a person becomes part of Scientology in general or the organization in particular, they are part of our own time continuum. And enturbulences which affect them and separate them out of an orderly existence, kick back madly all the way across the whole set of dynamics and you have apparently practically offered to kill somebody. I think mere capital punishment is not a fitting description of comparable magnitude.
    “See, you say, ” Well, that’s all right. Don’t come around to this group anymore. You go away. Now that you have been booted out, why, you’re off of communication and we’re not going to do anything for you and don’t associate with us anymore” and so forth. This creates one awful reaction. I’ll tell you why I know it creates one awful reaction. These people don’t spin necessarily, but their retaliatory gestures demonstrate that they have received a motivator of enormous magnitude. I can tell you how it seems to them by what they do.
    “They practically devote the rest of their lives and all of their actions and attention and everything else to trying to get even with you or remedy the situation somehow or something. This is one of the more fabulous things, so that it must be something of magnitude.
    “It evidently doesn’t compare to simply being ejected out of a country or ejected out of some kind of universe or out of a family or something of the sort, you know? It isn’t evidently of comparable magnitude. This is a very great oddity I wish to point out to you.
    “In the first place, Scientology is a road out of and into universes.”
    [...] “I merely wish you to look at the enormous actions undertaken by people who have been ejected from organizations and otherwise. They seldom go off and suck their thumb dismally. They seldom do this. They might go completely into apathy…, [but t]hey usually come in there fighting with violence; they’ve got to do something of magnitude.”
    * * *
    “See, we don’t quite understand the magnitude of the injury and the magnitude is considerable.”
    * * *
    “It’s because they are people of good intention. And by saying that these people are not fit to associate with us anymore, we have told a lie of magnitude. This is not true. It’s never true. You got it?”
    From Page 9
    “Our inability to understand the actions of other Scientologists has a very fascinating barrier. The limitation on our understanding is simply this: we say they have bad intentions, and that is a lie. Got it?
    “So the whole situation is liable to enturbulate around that postulated bad intention. That’s what enturbulates the situation. That makes a lie.
    “The situation then becomes unsolvable. Because we’ve entered a changing factor called a lie into it.”
    From Page 11
    “The most valuable asset we have, actually, is our ability to understand, to do the right thing, to be kind, to be decent.”
    From Page 13-14
    “Well, I hate to unsettle a very stable datum, if it does unsettle it. But the only way anything ever does resolve is by letting your own kind heart reach through. That’s the only way it ever does solve.
    “And it never solves by being tough.”
    * * *
    “It is proving more and more and more, that it’s not a safe thing to do [ARC break a Scientologist]. Not a safe thing from the standpoint of a vested interest, or something like that, to attack Scientologists. They’re too agile, they communicate, they talk. Get the idea? I mean, they do upsetting things. They don’t go back and sit down apathetically and say that’s the end of that.
    “They write letters. They do things. They think of ideas. They think of ways to get a communication line through.”
    From Page 17
    “What do we really have of value in the organizations of Scientology? The only thing we have of value, actually, is Scientology, an understanding of life, increasing ability to communicate, a good concept and grip on reality and the ability to like guys. That’s all you got.
    “When you knock out one of those or degrade one of those, you’ve got less than you had before. You’ve got less organization than you had before.
    “When we drop the various points of the ARC Triangle in their fullest meaning, we drop also the assets of the organization. And I mean that literally. I mean we drop the mimeograph machine, just like that, you know. Bang!”
    * * *
    “And there’s only one more thing that we could know that would make us all feel very, very relaxed about the whole thing. There isn’t a person anywhere in Scientology who has bad intentions for Scientologists or their fellow man. And that point all by itself is very well worth thinking about the next time some trouble arises in your vicinity, because that is the truth. And if you handle a situation with that in mind, you will solve the situation.”

  38. Muchas Gracias Sr. and Sra. GARCIA for bringing a new hope for the new year of 2013. Thank your for your honesty, your courage and honor. Muchas gracias for your respect for Ron and your dedication to right was is wrong. Stand tall mis amigos because you both exemplify what a true Scientologist does – speak the truth as well as live it. We all will follow your camino and wish you the best to take down the beast. May you be “The One”.

  39. Hello Mr. Rathbun,
    I’ve been following your story for a while. I am not, nor have I ever been, a Scientologist. I have, however, been horrified by the documented human rights violations I have read about via this blog and numerous other sources.
    I created an FB page called “Boycott Scientology Artists” where people might gain some knowledge about the human rights abuses of the “church” and deny patronization of its more public figures.
    I welcome the support of your blog readers!

    • Jess

      Hmmm…. Personally I do not see how this is going to stop David Miscavige from engaging in human rights abuses. What I do see is Scientologists of good will being boycotted for David Miscavige’s crimes.

      This is the wrong target.

      Besides which it effectively launches an attack against me and many of those on this blog who are artists.

      Is that what you want to see happen? People being attacked simply because they happen to be Scientologists, and artists?

      Please rethink your strategy..?

      Eric S

  40. From the Office of COB/RTC to all Scientologists:
    I have spotted a shocking outpoint which NOBODY spotted until i made note of it: course supervisors trained prior to GAT and GAT II and GAT III, not to mention GAT IV and GAT V, have consistently and incorrectly trained every Scienotologist on TR 0 and TR 0 Bullbait!
    This is very point which has slowed the tremondous advances promised by all iterations of GAT!
    Furthermore, this has also resulted in all public not being able to properly communicate with the church registrars of all types, which has led to certain misunerstandings that have caused masive enturbulation in the enviroment.
    This has literaly been a case of the Duped Sups leading the Duped.
    As this is a Danger Condition for all of Scientology, i have ordered a special By-Pass to remedy the situation until tech has gone in accross the boards.
    It is now Command Intention that ALL Scientologist report to your closest Class IV Org or Advanced Org for a special TR’s course to be delieved by Division 2. This vital tech will be deliered by a fully hatted and trained Registrar!
    With a special training program based on a recently un-earthed LRH advice, and make no mistake, though simple, this OT tech is both exterior and senior to normal Scientology tech, Special teams have already been dispatched by RTC to train the Training Registars to the highest RTC standards!
    Never again will any Scientologist have reason to complain about any registration cycle of any type, and all further technical training under any interation of GAT will proceed as intended.
    Course VFP: Fully Hatted and Competant Registrant.

  41. It can be interesting.

    Two spanish matadors and a bull in the same courthouse and these matadors have a caterpillar bulldozer as their attorney against the money making machine.

    A DM going Super Nova can collapse to a little white dwarf very heavy and solid and end up as a black hole inwhere no light comes out.

  42. You just met ARS

  43. Gracias, Garcias for stirring the bee’s nest. I can only hope they are African killer bees. You both are courageous thetans. Many,many thanks. ARC Bill Dupree

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