31 Factors

Thirty-One Factors For Scientologists to Consider

Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard discovered methodologies that can enhance self-determinism, increase freedom of choice, and bring about higher states of awareness and beingness to those who practice them. Hubbard developed a method of confession that includes unconditional forgiveness and results in more able, happy and peaceful beings. Hubbard developed an ethics system that an individual can apply to himself to improve his worth to himself and to his fellows. Hubbard established a form of organizational policy that is predicated on rewarding accomplishment rather than punishing failure. Hubbard set forth many of the fundamental values of Scientology and its organizations in the Creed of the Church of Scientology, The Code of a Scientologist, and the Credo of a True Group Member. Thirty-one factors have been discovered that threaten the continued viability of this vital subject.


Scientology has been taken over by a self-appointed dictator, David Miscavige, who has turned the Creed of the Church of Scientology, the Code of a Scientologist, and the Credo of a True Group Member on their heads and instituted the virtual practice of Reverse (Black) Dianetics.


In his quest to attain power Miscavige forcibly removed no less thanfour Hubbard appointed executives senior to himself, and dozens of Scientologists who had created scores of huge, effective Scientology centers. Miscavige used threat of force and violence in clearing the path to control of all Scientology organizations and assumed the self-created position of Chairman of the Board. He was never assigned by Hubbard and holds a position that was not created by Hubbard.


Since securing his position of power, the statistics of Scientology have steadily decreased in spite of Miscavige’s public proclamations to the contrary.


Miscavige has conducted a campaign to fortify his personal power by denigrating and depowering anyone who personally knew and worked with Hubbard. That includes, but is not limited to, the members of Hubbard’s family. The operation served to consolidate his personal power while immeasurably harming the vigor and image of Scientology.


Miscavige accomplished his coup by commandeering the only line of communication to Hubbard during the last five years of his life, plying Hubbard with embellished and false reports of a dangerous environment to keep him out of communication with Sea Org members and his family. The reports falsely accused Hubbard’s family and lifelong friends of selling out to the enemy and that Scientology orgs had been infiltrated by psychiatric and government interests. He prevented true reports from reaching Hubbard in order to make his actions appear necessary and on policy and to solidify his position.


Miscavige has persuaded those at the top of the Scientology organization that to disclose the secrets of his unconscionable acts would harm the religion and violate “the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics.” Thus, the truth of what goes on behind the façade of false PR that Miscavige creates is hidden from the vast majority of Scientologists and the general public.


Miscavige uses confessions of Scientology managers to invalidate, castigate, and embarrass them into acquiescence and silence.


Sea Org members who voice or even hint at any hesitation to carrying on with his tyranny or supporting his actions, are routinely physically beaten by Miscavige.


Those Sea Org members who have attempted to correct Miscavige’s off-policy and out-tech actions have been subjected to belittlement, invalidation and false propaganda. They have been silenced through imprisonment and mental and physical duress.


Miscavige’s abuse of Scientology executives and staff became so extreme and continuous, he resorted to locking all of CMO INT and Exec Strata into a building and called the prison “the Hole.” RTC, CMO/WDC, Gold, IAS, CST, OSA Int and ASI executives and staff have regularly been deposited in the Hole and subjected to Reverse Dianetics, including physical beatings and severe mental abuse for months or even years at a time.


Miscavige has run a continuous propaganda campaign attempting to besmirch the good name of L Ron Hubbard. He has consistently given little interest and funds for defending public relations attacks on Hubbard. Conversely, when Miscavige’s abuses come under scrutiny by the media or on the Internet Miscavige spares no money in attempting to destroy the reputations and lives of anyone with the temerity to discuss Miscavige’s conduct. Miscavige’s operations against “critics” include violations of the right to privacy, intimidation, investigations for perceived weaknesses then ruthless exploitation of them, propaganda campaigns, interference with contractual and personal relations, black bag jobs and blackmail. To exacerbate his atrocities, Miscavige justifies his conduct by pointing to some anachronistic Hubbard policy intended to deal with real attacks from the fifties and sixties. Thus, Miscavige perpetuates the notion Hubbard is somehow responsible for his own crimes. He routinely cites alleged things Hubbard once said (in violation of the first policy letter every Scientologist reads when exploring the subject) to justify his brutality against executives and staff members.


Miscavige has created a multi-hundred million dollar slush fund called the IAS. For twenty five years it has collected inestimable funds from Scientologists under false pretenses. The IAS has used scare tactics to extract “donations” to “save” the Church from attacks. Meanwhile, Miscavige prohibited IAS from disbursing funds to handle most of those attacks. On numerous occasions, Miscavige and IAS have given Scientology public the false impression IAS was spending tens of millions to sponsor “dissemination campaigns,” while in fact only funding a few ads for a very limited run, until the next campaign was devised. Conversely, the IAS has disbursed exhorbitant amounts for Miscavige’s personal vacations – including many Caribbean diving trips and a five star tour of Scotland (including cases of sampled Scotch being shipped to Miscavige’s residence afterward). When IAS executives balked at Miscavige’s actions, he feigned surprise about the extravagances and had President IAS escorted to the Int base, and locked her up in the Hole for behavior modification.


Miscavige has turned the top end of the Bridge into a dead end: First, he has programmed the Advanced Organizations, including the FSO, to regularly security check pre-O.T.s, and then use their confessions to coerce them into paying more money for atonement, a practice not unlike the Medieval Catholic Church selling indulgences. Second, he has imposed an unwritten code of behavior amongst O.T.s. They are regularly made to conform to correct dress, language, political thought, and even ideas as to how to use their personal time. Said practice is anathema to the very purpose of Scientology, which is to make a person more his- or herself, more insouciant and independent thinking. Third, Miscavige has entered arbitrary “contribution as a Scientologist” requirements mid-levels which can be satisfied by making cash “donations.” Fourth, Miscavige requires pre-OTs to attend his regular propaganda events (see Factors 22 and 23) and are treated as ethics bait until they enthusiastically embrace his projected public image. This enforced acceptance of falsehood t0 makes attainment of OT technically impossible. Thus, Scientology, as practiced in Miscavige’s orgs, is auditing one toward conformity, solidity, lies; in other words, down the tone scale, or, the precise opposite direction to the intended aim of auditing.


Miscavige’s “Ideal Org” strategy has wasted hundreds of millions of dollars of Scientologists’ donations to forward an entirely off-policy action. Hubbard’s Ideal Org policy letter says nothing about building posh quarters. A plethora of Hubbard Policy condemns Miscavige’s “straight up and vertical” method of building an org. Subsidies, particularly those extracted from the public under pressure, to build posh quarters are strictly forbidden by Hubbard policy. Hubbard advised that orgs be built from the bottom up by the elbow grease of local Scientologists, flanked by international management broad public promotion campaigns, growing their quarters only as they expand their delivery and income. Miscavige has hoodwinked Scientology public with the equivalent of a Ponzi scheme, shuttling staff around the world to pose at new “Ideal Org” openings for photo ops, many of whom are then shuttled off to some other org or soon leave for lack of pay. Regardless of the poshness of their quarters, Miscavige’s orgs are doomed to failure (and the failures are legion) because Miscavige has for years forcibly prevented Scientology management from implementing LRH advised pricing formulas to make Scientology affordable to working people, org finance systems that encourage orgs to survive and expand, and staff pay systems that make it viable for upstats to work on staff.


Miscavige’s alteration of confessional (FPRD) technology to, in effect, cancel Hubbard’s fundamental principle that a being can and does make undesirable mental mass and energy disappear by directed attention alone has caused innumerable Scientologists to regress on their paths to spiritual freedom. He has converted a powerful spiritual technology into a tool with which to enforce conformity.


Miscavige’s use of the technology of suppression to impose suppression rather than to accomplish its original opposite purpose, has suppressed countless Scientologists and divided many families.


Miscavige has perverted the practice of disconnection from a voluntary tool one may use to improve one’s life into a mandatory control mechanism. He uses the practice to suppress the free flow of vital, truthful information and to keep individuals toeing the line through threat of losing their loved ones, rather than as a tool to depower actual suppression.


Miscavige’s refusal to allow the entire International Base Crew (including RTC, Watchdog Committee, CMO INT, Executive Strata and Gold) to apply Ethics formulas to rise out of conditions he arbitrarily imposed is a Scientology High Crime. Miscavige has kept the international managers of Scientology in the lowest ethics conditions continuously for nearly two
decades by imposing arbitrary requirements for upgrade nowhere covered in policy.


The practice of ordering divorces based solely on Miscavige’s opinion of the spouse, or the fact that he or she is in a different church organization than his or her spouse is antithetical to the concept that true survival can only be attained across all dynamics.


Miscavige’s arbitrary policy that makes conceiving a child a crime warranting offload from the Sea Org is contrary to Hubbard policy. It has also spawned a policy that has required countless women to obtain abortions.


Miscavige’s practice of verbally declaring Scientology staff members suppressive persons while leaving them on posts that affect international Scientology is suppressive to Scientology and Scientologists.


Miscavige has co-opted Scientology’s multi-million dollar audio/visual production facility and its several hundred Golden Era Productions staff for the purpose of forwarding his own image and power through Scientology events. He has cross ordered hundreds of Hubbard advised dissemination films and marketing campaigns. This is done under the guise of the importance of international events, yet such events are proscribed by LRH policy. Millions of dollars are spent on these events in order to showcase Miscavige to further secure his power.


Miscavige puts on international events that intentionally misrepresent the true state of Scientology. Statistics are manipulated and falsified, video scenes are created that are palmed off as reality and campaigns are routinely unveiled with great fanfare but exist only for the purpose of being announced at the event. The manipulation of truth is skilled and extensive and designed for the purpose of making Miscavige look good. Scientologists wonder at the incredible figures presented on the number of new people coming into Scientology every second, minute, day, week, year, or the incredible reach of people being contacted or the vast numbers of officials and Opinion Leaders who fully support Scientology — yet their local church organizations show no sign of this massive and unrelenting growth.  Scientologists who retain enough sanity to spot the contrary facts must suppress such rational thoughts for those who complain are subject to heavy ethics and, if they persist in expressing doubts, expulsion.


Miscavige has cross ordered production of the authorized LRH biography. The hired LRH Biographer, who has been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, instead has worked almost exclusively for nearly two decades on writing speeches for Miscavige.


It is policy to never use lies in PR. Yet Miscavige has repeatedly lied, and directed others to lie, when confronted with facts concerning his unethical, abusive behavior.


Miscavige has personally enriched himself, living a far more lavish lifestyle than L. Ron Hubbard ever lived, though Hubbard had earned his fortune through his own writings. Miscavige has (by the standards of the Sea Organization) lavish living quarters in various cities complete with chefs and maids, owns or is provided expensive cars and motorcycles, flies exclusively in private jets, has his hairdresser and chiropractor travel around the world with him, and receives compensation that is far, far in excess of any other person on Scientology staff.


Miscavige has enforced an unwritten policy within the Church that his word has become more important than the words of the Founder. Church staff routinely follow the dictates of Miscavige that are directly at odds with LRH policy. His utterances are recorded and transcribed and distributed to staff. He changes the technology of L. Ron Hubbard under the guise of “getting it on Source” and using hidden data lines about what LRH wanted. Miscavige has gradually established himself as the new Source. The biographer of L. Ron Hubbard was recently used to front for Miscavige to journalists who were investigating many of the abuses outlined in these factors. Under Miscavige’s direct orders the biographer of Hubbard (who always eschewed the notion that he was anything other than a man) told the journalists that in his estimation Miscavige, and not Hubbard, “is a God.”


Many veteran Sea Org members have been RPF’d, imprisoned in the Hole, beaten and declared by Miscavige for having the temerity to object to Miscavige cross ordering Hubbard policy.


Miscavige spent over seventy million dollars in Scientologists’ donations for an office building for himself and his personal support staff. Miscavige constantly altered orders for the building during construction, many times to upgrade material and finishes to the most expensive available, ordering the removal and destruction of what had been originally installed. Such profligate spending is contrary to countless finance policies of Hubbard, who was always extremely frugal in the spending of Church donations.


Miscavige has created orgs that are the reverse of the islands of succor that Hubbard built during his life and directed be duplicated in his written policies. Prior to Miscavige’s Scientology, orgs were lively, creative, safe spaces where people congregated to share their spiritual experiences. Orgs are now places to avoid for fear of falling victim to crush regging, heavy ethics and modification of behavior.

Thirty One

Miscavige’s out ethics has gone unchecked for so long that his behavior has become extremely depraved. In recent years he has directed the org that LRH formed to assure the ethical practice of the religion, RTC, to literally pimp and pander for his movie star friends. A number of women have been unwittingly lured into this scheme by being told they were working on a very important project to forward the aims of Scientology. In reality, Miscavige arranged dates with them for his personal friends. This activity was kept secret by violation of the integrity and security of Scientologists’ confessionals, threats, intimidation, and the attempted division of families.

Those who have attempted to put ethics in on Miscavige from within have been ruined personally by Miscavige. Scientology is valuable to the many when studied and practiced in a sane environment. To allow it to be destroyed by the driven greed of a sociopath would be to condone a travesty. Scientology practiced in accordance with Hubbard’s Code of a Scientologist, Credo of a True Group Member, and the Creed of the Church can contribute something vital to society.

While Miscavige and his minions will no doubt claw, harass, and sue until the end to protect his fiefdom, it would well behoove all Scientologists to re-familiarize themselves with the Church’s creed:

“We of the Church believe…

That all men have inalienable rights to think freely,to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others and, that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside these rights, overtly or covertly.”

133 responses to “31 Factors

  1. I agree with all of these points. Regarding #16 & #17, my parents, brother, sister and many friends have all disconnected from me after being convinced by Miscavige’s henchmen that it was the right thing to do. The only “crime” I committed was telling my parents that I no longer support David Miscavige, and that earned me a Suppressive Person Declare. My mother stated the following in her email to me: “You are the most important person in the world to me. I know you are not a Suppressive Person” and yet she has now disconnected from me along with the others. My sister also told me she knows I am not an SP, but she will not talk to me anymore.

    • What about their personal integrity?
      It’s a second course I did in Scientology. And I think it’s really missing for all that disconnected.

  2. Scientologist

    This is amazing. I wish I had the balls to show this to all of my Scientologist friends and have them really understand what is going on.

  3. I love this article and I started emailing it to my Scientologist friends. It is really important to get the truth out there to as many people as possible. I feel bad for all my friends and family still being duped by this man.

  4. Time for Miscaviage to leave. before he declares himself the Founder of Scientology.

    Mark my words, It will come.

  5. Marty,
    by my opinion point 5 does not even vaguely explain how DM managed to empower himself.
    A book could be filled by that. But to be very short now:
    1) DM on his own never could have taken over the church. No way.
    2) Thus he had help outside and inside the church.

    In 1980 I was ordered to Meter Check all Staff. The only one that came up with a
    dirty needle later in 1984 had been a high OSA rank. (local osa, not int.)
    (I reported this one but the Ethics Officer told me, that I made a mistake and that
    person is so good he could not have a dirty needle. He was his boss that time.)

    A known R/Ser later on was the main Gestapo Sec checker terminal in that org. He loved
    doing those kind of sec checks.

    You see: the story has an earlier beginnig. In order to erase the incident you have to
    go earlier.

    • 1) DM on his own never could have taken over the church. No way.
      2) Thus he had help outside and inside the church.
      – George, 25 Sept

      I agree George. He’s a well-rewarded, talking-head quisling being run by shadow-masters.


  6. Marty,

    I left years ago, and I’ll never go back. But I admire and appreciate your eloquence and your courage. I have two siblings who haven’t spoken to me for some 25 years, and I know that the organization even with LRH at the helm was riddled with pollution. But what you’ve taken on is a righteous cause, and I hope you win. (I’m now a Latin teacher, and I love the fact that your command of English is so stellar!)

  7. David, good luck on your chosen path.

    • Marty:

      Contact me. I have some questions from the reading of your book.
      1.) I do not understand why you did not give your training or processing level.
      2.) I do not understand what you meant on the readio show when you said: “I do not believe anything.”
      3.) I did like the idea that you did not make the interviewer wrong. You appeared to remain pan-determined and you TR’s in. Was this you intent?
      4.) Are you mixing Scientology with a little Psychology?
      5.) Were you denoncing LRH in anyway in your book? I picked up on a little of that but I may be mistaken.

      Thanks and hope to hear form you.
      Guy (out of the Church)

  8. Interesting; however these 31 pts. seem to focus on Miscaviage being in the wrong, but you only provide your opinions. Well, this is a blog site, so that works. What I find very interesting, having researched religion in general over the last 8 months, is that whenever a religion, in the case Scientology, “reinvents” itself, i.e. The Golden Age of Tech and Miscaviage changing so much; whenever this happens, the religion is forever splintered and weakened. So, Miscaviage’s decisions have begun to destroy the religion that has made him so successful. His biggest mistake was altering anything. The second he did, and others followed, he lessened the strength, and whatever good there might have once been of Scientology.

  9. It was interesting to read Scott’s comment about
    leaders/prophets that change the original dogma
    and end up bringing about splinter groups. The Mormon church ended up having the same problem. The problem being that anyone can say they are the true prophet and start collecting followers. The FLDS Churches and splinter groups are a testimony to that.

  10. Science questions all dogma, even its own. Self-correction and refinement of theories are ultimate goals of a scientist. I don’t understand how any religion based on unchanging dogma can ever be compatible with science.

    I’ve started to read some of the books on Scientology, but I can’t finish one before it feels so contrived and illogical. I imagine that peer pressure from other Scientologists (probably with the help of a biofeedback meter for stronger peer-to-peer connection) is the only way one can truly feel the need to believe.

    • Darwin, I agree with you first paragraph. I think the measures in the second paragraph are resorted to because nobody within is allowed to approach the subject with an independent, critical mind.

  11. I’ve had my run-ins with DM. Like you state, he always has an entourage of people around him so it is hard to miss when he comes around.

    However, that one night around 3am in the morning during some insane evolution, I walked right passed him with sleepy eyes. He then made a comment about me to one of the execs at the scene that I was out-ethics because I had not seen him and he could sense out-ethics cases. I was pulled in about an hour later (4 or 5 am) and put on the cans to get to the bottom of my “out-ethics”. I had to cough up some masturbation overt and was hounded for days by the MAA about being “an out-ethics case” Many years later, I was in ethics trouble on something else. The MAA pulled me in and said: wasn’t there something with you and COB? You did something to him? Point being, after years I still was marked of having done something to DM.

    I learned to avoid the man. Whenever he was on our base, I made sure to be out of his sight.

    Marty, I believe what you write because for the simple fact that the spirit of Scientology has died. Orgs have been turned into visual museums. with nobody in them. Public receive numerous phone calls a day about one or the other fundraiser. I’ve stopped going to events about 2 years ago because I can’t stand sitting there watching some unreal propaganda video which is a bunch of BS.

    I can’t stand people getting up and clapping for this clown who virtually has destroyed Scientology. I am quite sickened with all this new information I am learning. What can we do?

  12. I have spent this day studying everything I could find on the web relating to the plethora of allegations against Miscaviage and the Church founded by Mr. Hubbard. I am not a member of the church, having been a confirmed atheist since learning to think and reason for myself. I read Dianetics during my early twenties and found the logic sound that “Aberration” as it was called, could influence our thoughts and behavior. The idea that one could become aberrated from the effects of trauma, and not be aware of it themselves explained a lot of human behavior I had always found puzzling. The only thing I found disturbing was the apparent lack of realization by the author, that mental trauma has as much and likely more potential for harming a person the physical kind. I don’t know much about the religious aspects of Scientology, but I still believe in the basics put forth in L. Ron Hubbard’s instructive theories. It’s a shame that Miscaviage and others have perverted the church’s focus. It had the potential to help many. Unfortunately, it seems to have gone the way of the catholic church, and instead of being a means to an end, has become the sole reason for it’s own existence. A great pity.

    • That is pretty insightful for a quick study. Your sum up deserves repetition:
      “It’s a shame that Miscaviage and others have perverted the church’s focus. It had the potential to help many. Unfortunately, it seems to have gone the way of the catholic church, and instead of being a means to an end, has become the sole reason for it’s own existence. A great pity.”

  13. I wish you would consider letting me post here Marty. In a way I am on your side, since I am proud of you for speaking out against DM. However, we disagree about the Tech and LRH. Debate is a good thing.

    • Say something constructive to the people whom this blog was created for – read my welcome page and permanent articles to learn who that is – not intended to make less of them, and I’ll post it in a heart beat. There are plenty of forums out there available for you that are all for book burnings.

    • Curious in what way do you and Marty disagree about the tech?
      Maybe we could have a forum for that, for those who are trained.
      I’m Pat Krenik, Founding Scientologist 1951, who resigned from the COS in 1984 after hearing that Miscavige did “gang-bang Sec Checks.” I realized then that the use of the tech was being perverted by the person in charge and wanted nothing more to do with that. That wasn’t the catalyst of why I left; it was just the last nail on the coffin.
      I’ve have years in the free zone or independent Scientology to look over the tech and the application of it before and after. You might be amazed at how many Flag pcs, upset, have been handled in the freezone by simple basic standard tech. It is quite fascinating to watch Marty “arrive” into Independent Scientology and quickly build a group. It is like reading a book; I can hardly wait for the next chapter!

  14. Hello Marty,

    this is Martin Ottmann. Are you willing to answer some questions about specific OSA activities in Europe and the US, which have not been mentioned in the SP Times series? I would like to fill some gaps.



  15. How about some discussion on what OSA has been doing since it’s inception? Fair game? That is what people need to know about. Perhaps some people do benefit from their “wins” but people should also be informed of the dark and sinister side of Scientology. Just ask any of Lisa MacPherson’s relatives.

  16. Marty, I read everything from Tampabay.com and the St. Petersburg Times article. Congratulations on opening up about DM in the St. Pete Times article. I began studying Scientology (as an outside observer – not a member) after the Time magazine cover story from the early 90’s. I have ready virtually everything online as well as most of the books about Scientology since then. I have learned all about Scientology TR’s, Wins, going Clear, Engrams, the Tone Scale, as well as the life of LRH. I admit that I have a very negative view of LRH’s intentions from the beginning and I view what DM has done as a continuation of what LRH started from the beginning. I applaud you for going with your instincts when you witnessed DM’s sociopathic behavior firsthand. In the future I hope you will be more open to criticism of LRH as well. Either way I wish you the best.

    One more thing…I am not a book burner. I am a free speech advocate.

    • Hiya StevieB,
      You seem obsessed with Scn/LRH…like a love/hate relationship. I don’t mean to be rude but I’m confused (and yet amused) as to what keeps you so interested in Scn if it holds no truth for you?


  17. Hello Marty,

    I follow up on your offer to ask you some questions with regards to some unknown details about OSA operations and other facts during the last 20 years.

    1) What has been Kendrick Moxon’s positions on the org board during the 1990s. He is a Sea Org Member , correct? Was he on the org board of OSA Int at CSI? What was/is his position?

    2) What was the weekly Gross Income (GI) of the FSO at the last time you had the chance to look at the statistics?

    3) Did OSA or any of its agents ever intercept e-mail correspondence of Scientology critics?

    4) Where is Kurt Weiland currently? Why was he demoted during the 1990s from being CO OSA Int to Deputy CO OSA Int for External Affairs?

    5) Did the “Church Tax Compliance Committee” *ever* described in its annual reports to the IRS the use of private investigators for OSA operations? Were Miscavige and the others, including you, aware or did you ever discuss the fact that the organization were involved in obvious non-charitable activities and thereby violating the 1993 agreement with the IRS?

    6) Is it true that the German GO and later OSA office had two agents placed in the German foreign intelligence service (BND) during the early 1980s and is it true that Alfred Kohl was their case officer?

    7) Is it true that during the late 1980s OSA EU had an agent placed in the office or near the French president at that time Mitterand?

    8) Has OSA EU or OSA Int ever infiltrated the *federal* government in Germany?

    9) In 1991 the FSO was on constant alert. The staff had to do night watches in various areas of the base. What was the reason for that?

    10) Did Adnan Kashoggi ever continued his Scn services apart from the Dianetics introductory services in 1991? How much money did the organization approximately receive from him and his wife?

    11) Did OSA Int or OSA EUS/WUS have agents that can trace financial bank transactions of critics?

    Thank you very much for any answers! BTW, do you plan to testify to a federal prosecutor, the FBI or to a Grand Jury? (I completely understand if you don’t want to answer *that* question.)


    Martin Ottmann

    • Martin,
      Email me and let me know what you are up to and why the Inquisition.

      • Hello Marty,

        I searched your blog, but I could not find an e-mail address.

        Here are some links with information about myself. The first is about my experience in Scn. I don’t know if you ever read it. It’s a declaration that was supposed to be filed in the Fishman countersuit in the LA Superior Court. It was never submitted to the court:


        In 1999, I started to compile documents on OSA activities in various countries. The in 2002, I filed a complaint with the US Attorney’s offices in Tampa and LA. This is the affidavit:


        Parts of the affidavit somehow got leaked on the Internet in late 2002. I then decided to post the whole thing on ARS together with various SO, GO and OSA documents.

        Since then, I haven’t done anything anymore, besides editing some articles on wikipedia with regards to the organizational structure of Scn. I regard myself as a retired critic.

        I did not meant to start an inquisition. If my questions appear to be somewhat rude, I apologize hereby. I am simply curious. The fact that you start to open up and you are talking about the “real stuff”, makes me to use this “golden opportunity” to find answers for these questions that accompanied me for quite a while. Some for 19 years. Is that a reasonable explanation?



  18. Great questions from Mr. Ottmann! Now how about:

    1) What did Scientology do to the medical examiner in the Lisa MacPherson case that caused her to flip flop on the cause of death?

    2) What was Bob Minton blackmailed with that caused him to back down?

    3) Where are Pat and Annie Broker?

    4) Where is Shelly Miscavige?

    5) Is Mike Rinder ever going to talk to the FBI? Now that would be interesting! With everything he knows about the covert ops of OSA/Guardians office a lot of people could go to jail for a very VERY long time!

    Marty, if you are going to speak out you need to do more than just talk about how DM used to slap you around. I am certain you know about a lot of the illegal covert ops of the “Church.” Speak out! This could be a historic moment!

  19. David Griffiths

    I believe there should be a committe of evidence in the Church to investigate your claims, but by leaving and some of your actions such as bringing discredit on the Church in the media you have made this more difficult.

    As far as the ideal org pgm goes, this aligns with LRH advice which includes an active field, and the Keeping Scientology Working Policy, which includes financial contributions as effective in the past. As far as straight up and vertical expansion goes, this aligns with the first results of the Birthday Game in the Seventies when stats did go straight up the wall and onto the ceiling. LRH says expansion does not take a long time.

    As far as the funny claims of Ottman, Man, this is not the cold war. East Germany used to send agents into the German Government, and even trained guys to seduce women. Yes Scientology does seek to change the world, and part of that is by putting stability on communication lines and with key individuals. The Catholic Church has done the same thing for centuries and as a result of the actions of the Jesuits, they were kicked out of Japan.

    People who attack Scientology, which saves lives, are frequently guilty of heinous crimes, has been proven again and again. We do not roll over and ask for the Hemlock like Socrates did, yes people who live in glass houses should not throw stones, and if we occasionally employ a PI, well, its legal, they advertise in the yellow pages.

    We have withstood attacks over the years because we are decent and do our jobs. Internal matters are irrelevant to the good that we do, day in day out.

    Racism and hate are obviously not dead in Germany, my sister’s German boyfriend thought my filing cabinet was full of files on people just like the Stasi. This is a result of a coordinated black propaganda campaign by certain interests. As a result many German Scientologists were sacked from their jobs simply for their religion. This is illegal according to any concept of human rights. In fact America historically owes much of its origin to religious refugees from Europe.

    Typically they accuse us of what they themselves are guilty, so we investigate on this line. The real people behind fascism were never brought to justice, some of the key figures were even in America. I personally admire German culture and it leading individuals, especially great artists such as Beethoven.

    Despite this Scientology is not political, and only takes action in defence of the freedom of Man.

    • David, I’m posting your comment though, at best, it is uninformed. You’ve made statements here that indicate, at best, you have not even read this blog and its links. You, at best, have not even read the Times Series nor watched all the videos that accompany them. If you had you would not make such a statement as that I have “brought discredit to the church. It doesn’t take but a double digit IQ to see that Miscavige directed Tommy to throw LRH under the bus in their defense. Those speaking out couldn’t have made it more clear WHO they observed caused the felonious behavior recounted. If you can’t spot source with what has been presented my friend, then you are no trained Scientologist. And if you are not, you have no business making judgments behind the guise that you are.

    • Griffiths, I noticed you didn’t actually attempt to debate the specific issues Marty listed. This is known in psychology as the ‘straw man’ avoidance effect.

      It all sort of reminds me when Charlie Sheen came out on a radio show requesting a meeting with the President to discuss 10 key conflicting points about the 9/11 attacks. Nobody, even in the media, challenged Sheen on those points. But instead, attempted to discredit his personality and introduce other criticisms which had nothing to do with the 9/11 concerns that Sheen had outlined.

      You might think Griffiths that your straw man approach is cunning. But I dare you go through each point and disprove it. After all, it shouldn’t be hard right, if Marty didn’t provide evidence? Then what are you afraid of? Even mentioning racism is a well known straw man trick. Similar to when someone criticizes President Obama only to be labeled as a racist due to that criticism, even though the criticism might be about foreign policy.

      The grass is much greener over here. Although I disagree with your mindset, in my eyes you are a victim too. And I would quickly open my home to you when the time comes for your own rescue.

  20. I love that Mr. Griffiths just admitted that Scientology employs private investigators. A religion that hires private investigators?

    If that is not creepy I don’t know what is.

    The Catholic Church has more critics than Scientology will ever have. Do you think the Pope is going to hire a PI to go through someones trash and try to dig up dirt on them so they can be, “Discredited.” I don’t think so.

  21. Stevie, I was with Bob and Stacy in New Hampshire back in 2002 and we were stunned to read a major newspaper story about the Boston Archdiocese hiring PI’s to dig up dirt on the people making child sex abuse accusations against priests. The reports of noisy investigations and the use of the courts to wear the victims down were so similar to Scientology’s tactics.

    Which is not to excuse Scientology’s behavior; it’s to condemn both.

  22. Bunker, I agree that the Boston Archdiocese dealt with the sex scandals in a very disappointing manner. I am not aware of the particular article you make reference to. I am familiar with the cases of priests being reassigned and sent back to other communities after they were supposedly rehabilitated. I thought Cardinal Law should have been fired along with everyone tainted by the scandal. The church has made some mistakes for sure. However, to try and draw any comparison between the Catholic Church and Scientology is silly. Scientology is an organization that I would consider to be more sinister and evil than the mafia. The stories from people who have been in and gotten out (especially ex sea org) are literally the stuff of Hollywood horror movies. You can watch any talk show any day and hear anti-Catholicism. You can hear it from any college professor on every college campus in America. These people are certainly not chased, followed, harassed, and “Fair Gamed” for expressing their opinions.

    Anyway, I am not even very religious. I was just commenting on another persons post where Scientology was compared to the Catholic Church and I thought it was silly.

    I like your stuff on YouTube. I sense that on other subjects we may not have much common ground, but I admire your bravery on the Scientology thing.

    What do you think of this forum? I think Marty speaking out against DM is great, but he does still hold LRH in high regards. I do not share that sentiment (but I am a free speech advocate).

  23. Marty, I was really curious what your answer to my last question was going to be. I see you removed my post (which is your right if it’s your web site). Are you concerned about copyrighted material being discussed here? Were you offended by the question? Were you concerned that any Scientologists reading this blog will be freaked out and no longer use it as a resource?

    • It is really the latter. In the proper context and forum I don’t have a problem discussing the issue. I don’t want alienate a lot of people that might otherwise be helped. There are buzzwords that automatically create earplugs and blindfolds to Scientologists. The subject you raised is one of the surest ways to drive people away who might otherwise open the eyes a bit.

  24. Stevie, I can’t find the original article which was in the Boston Herald, I believe. But here’s another article which details some of the same abuses. The editorial links to a news story as well:


    This is not to forgive or downplay Scientology’s behavior which I find reprehensible. I wouldn’t have been speaking out for the past ten years if I wasn’t appalled by the abuses I’ve witnessed.

    But when you said the Pope wouldn’t hire PI’s, I thought it worth pointing out that…essentially he did.

    As for Marty’s blog, I find it compelling reading and I learn quite a bit. I don’t agree with Marty on everything but what he is doing is very brave and he’s making a difference.

    I love seeing all the new people standing up and speaking out against the very abuses we used to try to expose at the LMT. Marty can speak to the true believers in a way that I can’t. We have two very different audiences.

    And while we may not agree on everything, there is plenty of overlap on things we do want to see end, like disconnection and the abuse of staff members.

    I look at it this way. I’m a pretty hard core lefty and Bob Minton is a Republican’s Republican but that didn’t stop me from loving and admiring him and working with him to stop the abuses we both saw happening inside corporate Scientology.

    When I was in Clearwater and Mary DeMoss was confronting me on camera, I always wished we could go to dinner and talk into the night. Why on earth can’t we communicate?

    In some ways, I looked at my time at the LMT like those great Chuck Jones cartoons about the sheepdog and the wolf (who looked just like Wile E. Coyote). Do you remember how they used to clock in in the morning with a pleasant “Morning, Sam” “Morning Ralph,” before becoming arch enemies for eight hours?

    As for LRH, we may not agree. But there are plenty of independent Scientologists who use the tech without causing harm to individuals or families. I don’t have any problems with them.

    If, however, they create another organization that is as abusive as Miscavige’s corporation, I will be on their ass, too.

  25. And if nothing else, I hope you enjoy the cartoon. Chuck Jones and his writer, Michael Maltese, were geniuses!

  26. Well Mark, I guess on certain things we will have to agree to disagree. I lean pretty far right, politically. I always suspected you were a lefty. Most of the Scientology stuff is apolitical so I was never really sure. From what I can tell there is nothing really political about Scientology. It is a corrupt organization at all levels (although some Scientologists that are completely unaware of the dark side are certainly good people). Speaking out against it is important for all people regardless of party affiliation.

    As for the Catholic thing. I am a bit of a lapsed Catholic. I guess it’s more of a cultural identity for me than it is an actual religion that I practice (at least in strict accordance with all the rules). I think where we part ways is on the analogy between the Catholic Church and Scientology. People have often said to me, “How can you be so critical of Scientology, aren’t you a Catholic? I consider the Catholic Church to be a cult too.” I generally just chalk that up to an uninformed opinion. For the most part I still consider the Catholic Church to be a force for good in the world. The Pope has always been actively involved in attempting to end wars, end genocide, and work with world leaders to bring about positive change to suffering people all over the world. In my own community I have seen church members involved in running soup kitchens and homeless shelters, raising money for various local charities, running good schools, and running good hospitals. These things are not done simply to get good press the way it is for Scientology Volunteer Ministers who show up after a tragedy and try to get themselves photographed helping people because it’s good “PR.”

    Also, the Boston Phoenix is not a real paper. It is basically a gossip magazine that is printed in newspaper format. It is probably even more biased than the National Review (and I LIKE the National Review). So, while I agree that the Catholic Church (Mostly in America – I don’t think the Pope was even aware of the actions of the Bishops and Cardinals involved in the cover up) made some huge mistakes I still think a comparison between Scientology and Catholicism is insane. If the Church really did hire PI’s I would hope and expect that it was only to try and determine if the accusations of certain victims were real or part of a smear campaign. Hiring PI’s when there is actual litigation in process is fairly common. Certainly the majority of allegations of clergy abuse were real, and my heart goes out to the victims. The guilty priests should go to jail forever, and any Bishops or Cardinals that knew about it and did not turn them over to the authorities should also be implicated. But please try to understand that we have reached a point where if someone accuses a priest of inappropriate behavior they will now be considered guilty until proven innocent. All you have to do is make the claim and the press will be on your side regardless of the facts. Anti-Catholicism is nothing new and goes back to the days of Irish immigrants landing in the U.S. hundreds of years ago. I myself was taunted as a youth for being a Catholic.

    The difference is Scientology uses shady PI’s on many people. Not just people involved in active litigation with the church. Anybody who dares to simply “Speak out” on the abuses of the Cult will often find themselves victims of Fair Game. I have been to Mass at a Catholic Church when there was protestors out front. These people were certainly not photographed, chased, screamed at, followed, harrassed, and intimidated. Nobody copied down their plate numbers and used that information to track them down at their place of residence. No compromising photos are taken of them and then plastered all over the Internet to try and silence them.

    That is the difference.

    We can agree to disagree. I did like the cartoon!

  27. I was not trying to say that the Catholic Church was as bad as Scientology in it’s use of PI’s. I merely pointed out that there were example of the abusive use of PI’s by the Catholic church.

    Now to open up another can of worms, your use of “look at all the good things the Catholic Church has done” as a defense is very similar to what Scientologists say when critics bring up concerns about corporate Scientology abuses.

    I contend that the good does not excuse the evil. Just as Scientology always lays the blame for their problems at the foot of a few bad apples, the Catholic Church should look at what it is systemically that has caused the widespread sexual abuse in the church. Isn’t perhaps the insane vow of chastity that deprives priests of a normal sex life contributing to the problem?

    It is not an attack on the Catholic faith to ask what can be done on the administrative side to stop the sexual abuse.

    Nor is it an attack on Scientology beliefs to ask that members take a close look at what is being done in Scientology’s name that is harmful to it’s long term health and to the health of society.

    • Now I understand why they call you Wise Beardy Man. I like this especially: “I love seeing all the new people standing up and speaking out … Marty can speak to the true believers in a way that I can’t. We have two very different audiences.” That recognition is what is lacking largely in the Anonymous field. There is no way I would have felt safe at your OCB place, with all respect, or over at ESMB or even ESK. These just aren’t places for folk like me with a 28 year track record of largely very positive experiences in scientology. Listening to Marty speak without any anti-scientology agenda was a relief that is hard to put into words, and started me on a great journey and honestly a new and exciting chapter in my life.

  28. Mark,

    I put together the most well thought out response I could to your post, but Marty censored it. It is kind of hit or miss with my posts because my language gets a little rough when I am talking about Scientology. This is his web site, so that is his right. I get disappointed sometimes. Oh well. My criticism extends to more than just the church in it’s current form and it’s current leadership. Right now Marty is primarily focused on DM (who is certainly deserving of everything Marty has said about him). I hope he will increase his purview in the future.

    So, I guess I need to move past that subject.

    What ever happen to Bob? Do you still keep in touch? How are Stacy and Jesse doing?

  29. Bob and Stacy are doing fine and I understand Jesse is as well.

  30. Guys, there is an entry on Wikipedia that says Rinder and Minton are now friends?!

    Is that true? If it is true that really is an amazing (and great) development since Rinder blew. To see Rinder come around enough to reach out to a former arch enemy makes me feel great about what is really possible in the future.

  31. MP Soames fights use of grandfather in Scientology recruitment drive

    Friday, November 13, 2009

    LEGAL action is threatened by the family of Sir Winston Churchill in a bid to stop Scientologists using the famous wartime leader’s picture and words in their recruitment drive.

    Town MP Nicholas Soames told the Courier and Observer: “Organisation like the BNP and the Scientologists have no right whatsoever to use my grandfather as a means to solicit and elicit support.

    “I have written to them asking them to desist from using his image immediately. Unless I get a satisfactory reply, I will take legal action.”

    Mr Soames said he and his family “deeply resented” the use of the Churchill name and extracts from his famous speeches “and my grandfather would have loathed it”.

    The decision by the Scientologists to follow the example of the BNP was “unforgivable”, Mr Soames said. “They didn’t even ask permission.”

    Pictures of Sir Winston and quotes from his speeches are included in staff recruitment material which has been circulating in the UK. They have also been used to promote speaking engagements and fund raising campaigns.

    Founded in 1953 by the late L Ron Hubbard at Saint Hill, East Grinstead it is officially known as the Church of Scientology.

    Defending the decision to use the Churchill name, Graham Wilson from Saint Hill told the Courier and Observer: “We often create colourful material for our own members and, like millions of others, might use iconic images from time to time.

    “Someone is just trying to create mischief here. A cursory search on the Internet for images of Sir Winston comes up with over two million postings. One of them has been described as one of the most famous portraits ever made. Some say it is the most reproduced image in history.”

    Mr Soames said: “That is the most dismal excuse I can imagine. I am fed up and very angry about it. My family will have to fight a rearguard action which is time consuming and unpleasant.”

  32. Hi there. How can I pass along some of this information to my parents who unfortunately are so fargone w/ scn…We sorta don’t really discuss it but as I recently found out about the book Blown for Good (he was a classmate of mine)…I have kinda become obsessed and engrossed w/ all of this information online, reading different stories, blogs, sites, articles, etc…I never really was a huge fan of scn from day one altho I was raised in it. Thankfully, I wasn’t pushed to continue when I decided it wasn’t my thing. I know all about disconnection and the consequences of a scn. hearing any “entheta” or “black pr” on scn so my question is HOW can I get a dialogue going? Or mention anything to them!?? I think they have NO clue about some of this stuff because they are “not allowed” to read anything critical of scn…etc. etc……I wouldn’t want them to think that I am an SP for saying anything….I want to share w/ them the blatant denial scn made about the disconnection policy (such a bold lie) not funny but almost is…and some of the data regarding Paul Haggis’ “resignation” from scn so to speak…In my life Iv never been able to express how I feel about Scn. to them and I have kinda always wanted to…At least now I feel like there’s vital info that they should at least know! Also Marty, you need a spot on your site w/ your contact info. I would love to email you privately. Please let me know what your advice is in this matter. Lots of Love to you all!

  33. Within these 31 Factors you state that LRH said, such and such, or DM is violating policy. I suggest you edit this list to include actual policies that were violated, and source where LRH stated these things.

    Thanks for speaking out!

  34. Before the beginning was a Cause and the entire purpose of the Cause was the creation of effect.

    In the beginning and forever was the decision and the decision is To Be. (I AM )

    The first action of beingness is to assume a point of view. (Me)

    God (I AM) creates an infinite number of points of view (Me’s) i.e. you , me and every other being. From this comes everthing.

    The above is what scientology is all about but it’s never addressed or stressed. Instead KSW is the alpha and omega and put above everything.
    Scientology is not GOD though LRH is just as you and I and Jesus are.

    I have been a Scientologist since 1978. There are many things in Scientology that are great like the dynamics and code of honor.

    Read Life and Teaching of the Masters of the far east by Baird T. Spaulding. This set of books gives you what you are after, (Me), and how to do it.



  35. Blah, blah, bla …

    David Miscavige and Heber Jentzsch are CIA-Sources exposed by Robert Trumbull Crowley, senior Central Intelligence Agency officer from 1948 until the mid-1980s.

    Source: “The Secret History of the CIA,” by Joseph Trento, Prima Publishing, Random House, New York, 2001. ISBN 0-7615-2562-9.

    Does this explain anything?

    Are you as naive as to think that the US government infiltrated Scientology to control it and destroy it by using just one man, without employing hordes of PAID operatives?

    Full facts here:


    • The Truth,
      And Heber is spending his entire 70’s locked in a room receiving mental and physical abuse as part of his mission orders? Wow, the Brooklyn bridge is for sale.

      • Since we are going down the conspiracy rabbit hole, may I ask…is DM a zionist/isrealite-affiliate (or simply just another flea on us poor ‘ol dogs)?

        ps: I thank you for this post, Marty; charge was blown.

  36. Oh Yes, that’s the drama meant for giants of the human intelect such as Heber when they are given ANY mission orders from ANYONE…

  37. I was going to ask about Heber. Can you give any specifics about his location and what ever happened to him?

    Whenever I get into a discussion with a Scientologist about it’s fall from grace, and they protest, I ask; so where the hell is Heber Jentzsch?

  38. Bill McNamara

    how do I get in touch with Mark Rathbun’s organization in S. Texas? There does not seem to be contact info on the website.

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  40. Dear Marty and blog members:

    I found my way, wandering, as only one can on the Internet, to this site and I am surprised to find myself 1) identifying with some of the organizational abuses and 2) deeply, deeply moved for everyone’s emotional and familial losses. Every time I read the word “disconnect” my head hurts.

    What is clear to me, after growing up in a Christian organization that was accused of being a cult and spending the last 25 years trying to find the real Christ, or running from organizations who insisted that only their Christ was THE one, is that religion, out of its very nature is a Petri dish for abuse and control of honest, trusting people by “wolves”. Truly, you have a wolf at the top of your former church.

    And it bothers me that the persecution causes independents to be segregated even from other independents. I couldn’t understand why everyone was recommending books on communism…but there is a parallel here. You guys have been forced into the American equivalent of an underground bible smuggling ring. Good heavens! This is America. No one should have so much control over anyone.

    I want to be honest and let you know who is writing because who I am holds a special significance in your belief system. I was, I believe partially as a result of all the religious programming and partially genetic, diagnosed with Bipolar I in 1997. I was prescribed and continued to take Lithium et al. [ My heart went out to Tom Cruise. I think he got sick of seeing millions of people destroyed every year and decided to say something. I don’t care what religion he practices – he is aces in my book for that. (while I am at it, Matt Lauer is a pompous ass and I can’t stand him, he never interviews, he just baits.) Tom said what every psychiatric patient in this country knows – but no one is listening to us because we are “crazy”. The whole system reeks.]

    I digress. My point is, I am extremely high functioning. I was hospitalized again in 2000 because I had pneumonia and my “handlers” (not Scn – just using the word for simplicity) and all medical professionals decided that my symptoms were psychiatric. Very long story, I did everything I could do to take care of myself and the stress they brought, plus the pneumonia and denying my meds and food for 15 hours…I ended up in the psych hospital anyway. So I don’t count that one. :)

    I have completed college and attained a Master’s degree in communication studies since then. I am a model patient where psychiatry is concerned. But I still struggle with rapid cycling mood swings. the medication does not treat the illness, it only contains it. And that is part of who I am. I wanted to say that because I get that you all highly value truth in communication. I took the Landmark Forum 20 years ago, I understand integrity.

    So, similar to many of you, I sit with my wounds and issues from years of humans within Christianity. Your wounds are from humans within Scientology. Your religion has been hijacked.

    I believe that the Bible is my truth. I also believe that its contents stand independent of any denomination. I also believe that there will never be a “pure” Christianity practiced on this earth. I believe this is because humanity produces so few leaders and so many followers with the good leaders only being in the top 1% of the leadership population. Sometimes I wonder if people will just follow anyone or anything.

    Right now, and I would probably get shunned in my own congregation (like I care) if I said this out loud, it does not appear to me that anyone’s problem at this point is Scientology per se. The problem is the wolves that have infiltrated your organization.

    What I want to share with you today is my belief that religion is a movement, a group of people in common interest, with a common bond, pledged to mutual support of each other as each person travels his or her own path to enlightenment.

    It is not – an organization, a trademark, or a particular address or iconic building, or special assignments and special uniforms and all these things that make us feel so loved, special and like we truly belong.

    They are empty and absent the living commitment to TRUTH of the people within the organization they are, as Jesus said, white washed tombs. There is no better word than tomb that arises for me to define how you are all describing today’s CoS.

    And so I urge you…from the bottom of my heart…Reorganize. Practice Scientology. Believe what you love, love each other, create your own reality for what you believe your founder stood for. But leave the CoS behind. Don’t sit and wait and hope and plot and plan for a revolution in what has become a tomb. You will only inherit the skeleton of an organizational culture that has raped the organization you loved. This culture has been in place and operating for 24 years, if my calculations are correct. To reverse it or change it may not be possible as it may be too ingrained.

    You all deserve life and happiness. You deserve to be able to enjoy your first amendment rights without them being violated by your leadership.

    I believe that more Scientologists, or people who wanted to be more involved but couldn’t afford it, and other people for other reasons are out there.

    Marty, it seems clear to me that you do not want to be the leader of the next incarnation of Scientology. But you have an unwavering commitment to your way of life and to your own integrity. I respect that. But maybe the new incarnation of Scientology doesn’t need a huge central headquarters with a COB (which I understand was an assumed position anyway). And vertical hierarchy is less effective in a data driven information age.

    I might read fundamentals of thought. I would like to leave bipolar disorder behind. But I am a Christian and I have to act according to my value system, so the extent to which I would study may be limited. The fact that all of you, as members of Scientology, see the psychiatric industry for what it is is immensely comforting and for that, I thank you and I will always thank you for your efforts in that regard.

    It really upsets me to hear families separated, people disenfranchised feeling like they are floating untethered. I hate that. And you are only one person. You cannot audit for every independent that needs it.

    I want to see you guys rise up and take back your belief system. I once belonged to a public and prestigious organization (populated by cretins nonetheless) and I was classified so that my life became the equivalent of a DP, at least professionally. I lost all my friends too. And, like you, I was innocent of anything but trying to do the right thing. I can’t change anything about my situation with these people and I am no longer interested in doing so. I don’t obsess about it anymore. I had a giant breakthrough when I realized that all I needed to do was tap into the values and interests that brought me to that organization in the first place and apply them elsewhere where they and my talents, intelligence and compassion would be appreciated.

    You share common beliefs and values and I think you should reorganize, quietly and without avarice or fanfare but I think you should reorganize.

    I will be praying for all of you, for what it is worth. This kind of abuse in the name of religion is, IMHO, the worst kind of sin. Don’t know what you call it, but that is what I call it.
    It was hard to decipher most posts due to the vocabulary but I think I got a much better picture of a true Scientologist than what the media portrays. Count me in for positive PR for you all.
    J.T. in NY

    • martyrathbun09

      JT (Identifying) , Thanks much for this brother. Fundamentals of Thought isn’t going to threaten your Christian beliefs. I hope you get to read it. Bless you for blessing us.

      • The Computer Guy

        Hey Marty,

        I have a lot of friends on here and wondered if there is anyway to email you privately as I want to bring something up that I do not want the whole world to see at this time. Is there any way to do that? One friend of mine is Kathy Braceland. I was in Scientology since I was a teen and am older and wiser now.

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  42. The fact that David Miscavidge is practically diefying Tom Cruise is a violation of HCOPL Sources of Trouble #G. Persons who claim that “if you help such and such a case” (at great and your expense) because somebody is rich or infulential or the neighbors would be elctrified should be ignored. Processing is designed for bettering individuals, not progressing by stunts or gining cases undue importance. Process only at convenience and usual arrangements. Make no extraordinary effort at the expense of other persons who do want processing for normal reasons…..etc. Shouldn’t he be handled on this outpoint? Why is it not happening?

  43. Dear Marty, Thanks for all this information on the Church. I was part of a group who started a mission in my town in the 70’s and managed to be on staff as a course sup and got to OTIV. I guess this situation with DM is more far reaching than meets the eye. I’m just going to keep applying conditions and the tech that I have from the old days. Thanks again.


    Much of my study of Scientology has ended up reading and studying “Scientology 0-8 The Book of Basics”

    I occasionally study the factors, the Scientology Axioms, the Dynamics, ARC triangle, the Tone Scale, the Know to Mystery scale, KRC triangle etc. and get new cognitions LOOKING with new eyes. My favorite is the KRC triangle. Just a question “What scale does the KRC triangle move up and down on???” I believe it moves on a scale of freedom that has not yet been defined. If you find it in Ron data let me know.

    I have mentioned in another area that the new version of this book removed Chapter 3 “Consideration and Mechanics”. Go to “Annual Report” comments, I included the Chapter, it is very short. Since on this comment I was going to talk about the KRC triangle, I again looked to my original 0-8 and compared it to the new version. Both the ARC and KRC write ups are quite a bit different. I am not sure if the data was harmed but it is definitely different.

    Back to KRC. Being basically good I never could imagine anything but striving to move the triangle up. First, obviously, expanding someone’s knowledge. Then I had a horrible thought. What if someone was trying to push this triangle down??? Then I looked around and it was every where. I was shocked. Psychiatry is actively doing this. You can gain incredible control by pushing this triangle down for an individual or a group. This is an incredible tool for both purposes.

    This is the first tool to examine any action and its purpose. You can see the results very easily, whether the action is positive or negative to the individual, group or activity applied. Good and evil are defined basically by the team for which you are playing. Now, of course, all of us believed that Scientology should be the ultimate team (I like the word team much better than group) and should be played for benefit mankind and should be done somewhat selfishly in the grand sense. Since it benefit us all.

    So the simplicity of the KRC triangle has to be applied first. This Blog is actively increasing our knowledge of the situation with the Church of Scientology. This will lead to the actions that will stimulate the responsibility to take control. If not the Church itself, a separate group applying the technology. I believe it starts with the individual. We need auditing and lots of it. We need to get everyone up to a level where we are PAN DETERMINED. Where we can see all sides and know the next action. I don’t know where this is going but it may be a group (team) I can finally support.

    • I would think of the Havingness scale as corresponding to KRC. Havingness is not just what you own, but ultimately what you or others experience.
      At the top of the scale is Create, if i remember correctly …

  45. Just another slightly different point of view here on the DM SP actions—and this is for the blamer type – finger pointers out there. Blame games don’t rectify anything. If it makes you feel good pointing out the obvious and trying to establish “whose at fault”, then have at it.

    I happen to believe causes lie with the whole group for letting their “opinions” of things supercede Ethics tech. It’s easy and understandable to let little things slide – especially if the “slider” is a higher ranking individual or someone perceived as having some formidable clout. This SP put himself close to LRH and on his close lines knowing he would be nearly untouchable there. He’s simply leveraged that position with cunning effect. I’m not minimizing the terrible human cost his methods have realized. He’s an effective terrorist not to be underestimated. My point is that he’s an insider who knew and knows how to intimidate and score over his perceived enemies.

    Here’s my take on (drama intended here), “how this could have possibly happened under the noses of trained executives”. I believe it has to do with the “human nature” element of truly nice people as opposed to a tyrannical SP.
    Nice people just don’t want to attribute negative results to the character of another trusted group member. Nice people would commonly buy into a far fetched excuse rather than the truth that might implicate a fellow ” believer”. Hens don’t realize the fox in the hen suit is a predator -or pernicious sociopath, ( he’s one of them — how could he be a bad guy?).

    This is not in any way ideal but is common when people of conscience are confronted with an awful choice that would have far ranging implications and would tarnish if not jeopardize relationships in the group dynamic. Ethics outnesses are easily justified and ignored when the ” ante” is raised to to a shockingly steep level. It would literally represent a culture shock instituted by any who undertook such a “risk” to use detection and exposure methods. And if there was no mutual reinforcement present that there ” was something significant wrong” in the area (plus PTS staffers would have a tough time trusting their own judgements as well), I can see how it slid by for years. As it travels forward in time, the “ante” keeps increasing and with it the reluctance to step up due to ever increasing “personal and group social costs”, until present conditions finally became insanely intolerable and it pops like an overinflated balloon.

    IMHO the internal situation within the church will follow this cycle unless there is an outside action (criminal charges and indictment) to derail it. It will likely take years if not decades for a full cycle to complete. He’ll drag the church through the mud and attempt to obliterate it completely if he is to be taken down. And make no mistake, he’ll use every option at hand and will spend every dime at his disposal to vanquish his real or imagined enemies and their networks if they exist. This guy is socially dangerous and will act like a wounded predator once he feels his cover is blown. His attitude will be to take everyone and everything within reach down.

    That’s my take things. Just an opinion based on experience seeing how groups form some seemingly sensible but costly assumptions and their consequences. Sorry if it’s a downer but my intent is to relate a point of view. The important question becomes how to eliminate his power and not let him dismantle the church in the process.


  46. Very well said. The depth of the evil that can exist is hard for good people to fathom and confront. So many typically do nothing. As the saying goes, evil triumphs when good people simply do nothing.

    Thus we see fellow scientologists unaware of, or even tolerating the evil alteration and deletion of the works of LRH.

    10 years ago, I was online vehemently exposing the “alteris” of the works by L. Ron Hubbard, and posting many specific alterations and deletions.

    From a scientologist point of view, changing the works of LRH is about as evil as it gets because it destroys scientology, its workability, and its reputation.

    I’m not so much concerned for the destruction of the “church” as much as I am for the destruction of scientology itself.

    I’m disappointed in church scientologists for not noticing or speaking up about the altered and deleted works of LRH.

    Scientology is supposed to make you more aware and able, and that includes an increase in one’s ability to confront evil.

    Clearly, “church” members are not practicing real scientology or else they would have noticed how RTC has allowed the works of LRH to get altered (and some even deleted!).

    The current altered books and tapes “by” LRH are the big elephant in the living room to any observant scientologist.

    It’s SO obvious with just a little obnosis.

    If you are a church member reading this, why aren’t you raising a HUGE flap about this?

    Isn’t it OK to cause trouble to Keep Scientology Working?

    • I think this is in the “Welcome to the Sea Org” tapes, LRH said that the last thing a Sea Org member should do is worry about getting in trouble. If you don’t get a comm-ev every few weeks, something is wrong. As for a church public not causing trouble, whatever happened to KRC?

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  48. I don’t know how much light this may shed on anything but it is clear to me exactly what it means.

    I know a of a Scientologist and he has “verbal marching orders” “from the church” {a product of his own out-ethics and O/W’s} that read something like this:

    “If you see {name deleted} anywhere in the church you are authorized by us to call the Police”.

    So, under duress, if he sees {name deleted} in a Church of Scientology anywhere the church is not to call the Police, *HE* is to call the Police.

    Situations such as this depict what becomes of a congregation that follow the opinions of a madman {in this case name not deleted – David Miscavige}.

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  50. Wow! Quite a list of suppressive acts. I can’t say I am totally surprised (even though I am on a few points) simply because I have observed too many Scientologists (staff and public) bow down to DM as if he were source. It has always rubbed me the wrong way and I felt as if I was “alone” and rarely commented on the stupidity of the sheeple openly. So it’s good to see this list and know that I am not alone! Thank you for creating this bog Marty and thank you all who have contributed. I’d also like to add something to point #12 regarding the IAS and its lies. For many years the IAS regges used Psychiatry as a button to reg money and made Scientologists believe that the IAS was handling Psychiatry. When in fact, they did very little and were in essence by-passing CCHR reg lines and leaving nothing but bones for CCHR regges. It is CCHR’s hat to fight the psych’s, NOT the IAS. All the PR bullshit that the IAS has promoted about getting rid of the psych’s is a huge LIE. The psych’s are EXPANDING at an alarming rate on this planet, and CCHR (with little or no funds) is getting next to nowhere, thanks to the IAS ripping off millions of dollars from Scientologists who actually believe that becoming a Patron (or any other status) is going to help fight Psychiatry. I know it’s bullshit, because I worked for the most upstat CCHR on the planet and helped get 8 laws passed against the psych’s and close down many psych hospitals and get several thrown in jail, WITHOUT a single DIME from the IAS. It was not easy. In my opinion, the IAS is nothing but a Nazi organization as bad as the IRS that does nothing but crush sell and extort money to further it’s own ends. And as I see on this list now, to further DM’s lavish lifestyle. I already had a ton of BPC on the IAS before reading this list. Now I am SUPER pissed off! I vow right here, that I will do whatever it takes to help bring down Mr. megalomaniac miscavage. Count me in.

    • Thanks Count. Glad to have you aboard. What you say about the IAS and CCHR is sadly true. CCHR never had money, would beg the AS for it and the IAS would COMPLAIN to DM that CCHR was cutting across the IAS fundraising lines as nobody else was supposed to ask for donations from public!

  51. James Anderson

    I have read all the 31 points and the thing that most strikes me is; this one man has managed to bring this off, even pulling the wool over LRH’s eyes! How is that even possible?
    Who was helping him to bring these things off, they have names, no one man can do this, there was help, who were or are the lieutenants?

    I am one of the saps who donated tens of thousands to this scam, all in the believe I was contributing to something I really believed was being done.

    This is too rich, who are the others involved?

  52. #15 So true. This abuse of policy was actually key, and perhaps to blame, for the suicide death of my 19-year-old and only son, Wesley.

    #16=17 I’d love to konw the details of what this arbitrary is, but I well know that in running FPRD, an ability to line inspect basic is developed over time. Fortunately I completed my FPRD while full gains were still allowed.

  53. Hello Marty,

    I am a former Grad 5 CCRD auditor who was posted in the NOTS Super Power TTC at Flag. I was in the Sea Org for 1 full year….mine is a long and sad tale. :) I can’t begin to describe how I felt driving away from Flag after 30 years in Scientology. It was like, losing my religion, my family, everything I had….all my stable datums. I have great empathy for yours and Mike Rinder’s stories and the stories of so many others, who have suffered more than I. How stange it was to enter the real world, the ‘wog’ world after so long and wonder, “where do I fit here” , “what do I do here”? I started my life over 9 years ago. I have rebuilt me relationships with my family, minus ex-husband (no loss there) I have been working and going to school full time (easy compared to the sea org schedule) and I’ve earned a Masters degree and bought myself a home. I just started a new job, a very good job, and I have spent the last several years searching for my own truth. I have done the work and I have found where I lost my ability to have good judgement. I am happy and when I get calls from various church members, I tell them I have outgrown Scientology. I have found that there are many truths to be found not just from LRH. I acknowledge that LRH was one of my great teachers, and finally I want to say….while at Flag I realized that somewhere along the line, someone (I don’t know who) CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF AN INSTANT READ….I knew then, Scientology was doomed. I also don’t think LRH ever envisioned the power of the internet and it will be the undoing of Mr. Miscavage and the C of S. I am sure……………….pg

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  56. I could go on forever but I applaud you for taking baby steps away from a destructive cult. There are many such cults filled with seductive language and fancy, invented terms to imply supremacy and validity while appealing to, mostly, young, vulnerable and lost individuals. I went and took the personality test when offered by a sweet, sincere young girl. I was quite happy at the time but, shocker!, I failed the test and it was recommended that I proceed into the financial phase of Scientology. The girl was never seen.
    My cousin was not so fortunate. 30 years later he’s still chasing the moving target. His family is broken and he’s incapable of communicating with those of us who are too ‘stupid to get the tech’. This fella and his cohorts attempted to talk me out of chemotherapy (stage 4) and replace it with ‘touch assists’. Thankfully I followed an experimental protocol and am here to tell the tale.
    My point is not to slag Scientology in particular (although it’s tempting) but to point out that we all need to find our own way and that takes courage and hard work. We are not guaranteed spiritual salvation but the pursuit and a life well lived provide satisfaction. A single doctrine cannot account for individual nuance that resides in the heart of each individual. Skeptic that I am, I try to be scientific yet open to any idea that bears up.
    I wish you the best of luck on your journey and ‘recovery’. All top heavy orgs. crumble under their own weight as power hungry individuals like Miscavage seek to consolidate their grip on the money and status.
    A last question. It is rumored that LRH died in a forced, drug addled state.
    Any truth to that and those responsible? Thanks for your time and continued success.

  57. As someone who has never belonged to Scientology, and only started acquainting myself with it a year ago, due to my interest in social psychology (cults provide valuable material for social psychologists), I am just shocked at what I have found. I didn’t expect something pleasant from the onset, because cults are a rather dark branch of social psychology, but nothing could have prepared me for what I have found. David Miscavige is a textbook case of a corporate psychopath, as described in the book “Snakes In Suits”. I cannot express my utter horror at all the abuses, human rights violations and families destroyed, with no action having been taken from authorities. Paul Haggis’ New Yorker article noted that the FBI has been investigating Scientology, but seriously, how many people need to come forward before arrests are made.

    I will end on a positive note, though; as dark as this research has been for me, it also showed me the strength of the human spirit. There is nothing more beautiful and inspiring than the human spirit. Ex-scientologists, well done for getting out, and may the sun always shine on you.

  58. Clearly Marty’s points have been infiltrated by a few nut crackers. But what to expect I suppose.

    • When someone expresses an opinion, those who don’t agree will often use sarcasm and shoulder an air of confidence that only they know the real truth. If this forum is private (not to be ‘infiltrated’ by just anyone) then make it so and be happy in your closed, isolated little group of “only we know the ‘real’ truth”. Perhaps, the nut crackers are just that, people trying to crack a few nuts.

  59. Dear Scientologist,
    This current schism is tearing me apart, how about you ? Let me explain.
    1973 was the year when I charged into Scientology head first and flat out. Since then I have been in and out, up and down, but never, never had any doubt that Scientology was the answer to man’s ill’s.
    However since LRH moved on my doubts concerning certain activities of the management grew until I ploughed through the basics, then my doubts became certainties. So often did I read the words of LRH only to notice that his words were, apparently, not being closely followed by the ‘powers that be’ that I concluded that something was desperately amiss.
    Being on, almost, full time study there was not time enough to search the policy volumes and my study has always been of the technical matters as opposed to policy and administration.
    From time to time persons of my acquaintance, to a greater or lesser degree, would leave for reasons various and at times I would read some of the stories and claims featured on the ‘net’ but always the official version of events were accepted by myself.
    The Debbie Cook email, featured in the main stream gutter press was the impetus needed to take action. For the first time the relevant LRH policy was compared to current management activities.
    Soon my doubt formula conclusions, especially up to and including the present day, will be made open to the local org and no doubt my expulsion put into effect. Many of my erstwhile ‘friends’ will quickly sever all connections with me in the panic to not be deprived of ‘their bridge’, some others will just quietly put sufficient distance between us to make life tolerable for themselves.
    My sorrow will be for three reasons, one will be that they will forfeit any meaningful and certain chance of ‘their bridge’ if they place others as cause in their lives and thereby put themselves at effect.
    Another will be the demonstration that they have little, or no, understanding of the basic tenets of Scientology and especially the basic laws of the universe contained in those tenets.
    Yet another, that the very persons that I respect and admire, the dedicated staff members, and whom I would wish to name as my friends, will possibly consider me as some sort of traitor. That I am not !
    Even so one must maintain one’s own integrity both for the good of one’s soul and those around and connected, however remotely, to oneself.
    Now here is the conflicting situation. The current management is being slated, and often rightly so, for not adhering to Scientology principles. Are the dissenters, to stand accused of the same faults, especially of the most basic kind ?
    Scientologists have the technology of life that is capable of handling all manner of communications and upsets and problems.
    Let us use it.
    Firstly and certainly most foremost let us not grant our (and by extrapolation, the worlds) real enemies satisfaction by washing our dirty linen in public. That is very demeaning to all concerned and only a thoroughly debased being would want to listen to it.
    We have the power of real communication and as such are capable of permeating any and all barriers, let us not waste it but rather place the correct message precisely in the correct place to have it duplicated by any sane and sensible person.
    After Communication comes Reality and Affinity. It is the reality of the situation that is vital to gain understanding and agreement and that is a great way to win a ‘battle’.
    It is fully understood that there have been great upsets in America but please be assured that there have also been upsets in the UK and Europe and no doubt elsewhere around the world. Even so the Greatness of Man still prevails and it will be the power to forgive and then handle any situation that will win the day.
    To fall into the same trap of bitterness and ‘insularity’’ would place any dissenter at the same level of those being dissented against, and that would not be very funny or bright !
    It is truth that sets one free and the truth of this situation needs to be diligently found and clearly illustrated for all to see.
    Naturally with the exact truth will come the obviously correct handling, which will not be denied by any alert Scientologist.
    The Jackals are watching, none have the courage of their own convictions but wait to see Scientologists ruin themselves so that they (the jackals) may move in to tear at the carcass.
    That will not happen by the simple expedient of strictly applying the basic tenets of Scientology; ARC, a clean comm cycle, and abiding by the ‘codes’ of Scientology, especially that of not speaking ill of another in public.
    Remember that one’s tone level may be observed by the manner in which they communicate and deal with others. The observable tone level needs to remain high, low toned people do not achieve anything worthwhile.
    Presently the whole world is in turmoil and I know, without doubt, that a vast majority of people will flock to Scientology when they observe for themselves the principles of Scientology being applied and then the results that occur thereafter.
    Otherwise they may just decide that they have been disappointed one more time and sink just another notch lower down the slide of life.
    Not one decent Scientologist, no matter what they’re level of expertise, would let that happen if they could avoid it.
    That is another fact of life.
    The aims and goals set out by LRH, so long ago, still apply.
    Let us use Scientology, from the ground upwards, to reach those goals, the whole world awaits !

  60. I will not be winning a popularity contest for this one…..but the ‘truths’ in Scientology have been plagiarized from other sources. I too, was once a ‘tech’ trained person…Grad 5, CCRD, HRD auditor. When I first got into Scientology I was young and naive and had not read very much. While in Scientology we are discouraged from reading anything but LRH and told consistently that he is the source. I have since discovered this is not true. There are many wise people throughout the ages who have contributed collectively to the great philosophies and wisdoms of mankind. In fact there is an evolution afoot. An exponential awakening. An understanding of the ‘true’ nature of ourselves and our source. It doesn’t cost money and it isn’t corralling people into ‘organized’ religions. All it takes is a genuine desire to know. As Buddha said, “when the student is ready, the teacher presents himself”. It requires that you slow down, be in the moment you are in, pay attention
    and find the joy in it. It does not require a Billion Year contract or sacrificing your family and friends and your homes and all your money to chase a carrot up the ‘proverbial’ bridge.

  61. Hi everybody,

    The day X will come – tomorrow or in a year – when DM won’t be there anymore. He might have resigned, eaten by a shark, put into jail. Whatever.-

    There would be a vacuum first. Who/what would/should fill this vacuum?
    Wouldn’t there be another SO member who would take over right away, and the show would go on more or less the same way?

    Wouldn’t it make sense to set up a ‘government in exile’ with a specific program defining which changes should take place? Or does it exist already?
    If yes – would there be any democratic elements in the new structure or would ‘the new Church’ be ‘governed’ straight from above,, like today?

    Which ideal scene are you dreaming about for the time after?

    Is there anybody more qualified around than Marty and Mike to be on top of the ‘new Church’?

    • martyrathbun09

      No thanks, I’m trying to demonstrate to people that the last thing they need is a new leader.

    • One thing I would love to see is not a “new order” but a well done 3Dynamic Auditing run on all Scientologists.

      This will take some time even when DM disapears from the screen.

      But there is no other chance for Scientologists and Scientology and its aims to mankind.

      Time will show us what happens when more charge blows off the implanted 3d dynamic of Miscavology.

  62. So are there any plans for the time after?
    There are lots of Churches, facilities, people working.
    How should all this be organized once DM will be gone?
    What will fill the vacuum?
    Is there a discussion taking place about this subject somewhere?

  63. Okay, Marty, in one way you are correct. However, if DM dropped dead of a heart attack today, then what? Since so many at the top have been so profoundly influenced by DM more than LRH, I project there would be political machinations and infighting to sieze the same power DM now holds.

    Is Heber Jentz still alive? Or has being demeaned to the hole of Freewind’s engine room killed him? I say form a coalition of those who have been in the Church the longest, who knew it long before DM came on the scene and know the the difference between KSW then and now.

  64. That’s what I don’t understand. There is always a lot of talk from the viewpoint of the Founder’s philosophy and his policies being violated and ignored left and right and so on. It’s good to understand the social dynamics involved, but ultimately one questions has remained in total mystery for myself – who ultimately controls the corporations of the Church of Scientology? Who can LEGALLY fire David Miscavige from his position as a “Chairman of the Board of RTC?” Who is the owner under law? Who is the legal authority at the organization? If DM is a “Chairman of the Board,” where is the “Board?” Who are other board members and where are they? There is a lot of information surrounding the Church of Spiritual Technology on http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.com, but it still doesn’t quite answer the question. How can this situation be resolved from a legal standpoint? Where are the last editions of the original books as authored and edited BY L. Ron Hubbard himself, not “L. Ron Hubbard Library.” How are we ever to trust that what is being presented at the Church is truly “on Source”? For example I had definitely felt going through some of the new “Basics” books that it was not LRH. It feels like something is just missing. LRH developed study technology, he liked to engage in a lot of explanations and story telling to make sure people understand. That style is somehow missing in the “Basics.” It is as if those books were really stripped of LRH and the life that he imbued into his works and made into sterile textbooks of raw data. I obviously did have some wins from getting that data, but something just isn’t there. Maybe it is the same with GAT training. I don’t know. I know that I have probably had the largest gains by reading through his policies, especially the ones that seemed like originals. Some policies also felt “different” and I noticed those where usually the ones that were revised with issue dates after LRH’s death.

    Marty, you have worked closely with DM himself as I understand for a long time and through the time when the agreement with IRS was made. What did really occur? Who is/are the true recipient(s) of revenues streams from various corporations of Scientology? It seems that this area is shrouded in mystery.

  65. Tom Houston DDS

    Good job. That took alot of time to write… Been out 2yrs…. Because out ethics of regging, harsh ethics at flag etc and.. What I have seen above… Concerned though of my future on the bridge. Who is going to organize.. Train new auditors , training ,places to go etc. will it be there in the future

  66. Thank you, Marty. Scientology has fascinated me for years but my one visit to the NY Org gave me the willies and I never went back. I have always felt a profound attraction to the idea of auditing and the beautiful ideas expressed in Scientology…perhaps someday soon the Church will be healed and people like me will no longer be reticent to explore what it has to offer.
    As for hubris and corruption, people of good conscience, like yourself, eventually grow tired of it and when that happens renewal can begin.

  67. #7 made me want to hurl. When I was in the church, I felt like there was something wrong when I was sent to Flag to learn “The Golden Age of Tech”… many many things were changed then and it really bothered me. He was there in person for alot of the evolution… He was not a nice man. He did degrade his staff regularly, I saw it, he did it in front of Class V org staff too.. Made me really question his role in all of this. It is the utmost crime to make others wrong for their overts they have confessed, the church, not just DM, uses this against practitioners and staff alike. Im guilty of it as well. I hate that about myself too. I’ve always loved LRH’s work and still use it daily, even tho I would never call myself a Scientologist again. Use any of this against me… there is nothing about this religion that affects me anymore, they really do not realize how insignificant it all really is.

  68. Graehame Thorne

    Mr. Rathbun– My compliments on a well-written & very necessary blog. Speaking as someone who has never been a Scientologist but who has followed the COS closely for 20+ years, I entirely agree with you that the COS under DM has run completely off the rails.
    However, I wonder how you & other free zone Scientologists can continue to endorse & practice the core tech of Scientology in light of the well-documented fact that LRH was a pathological liar. His account of his military service history was almost entirely fabricated (the only truth resting in the fact that he did in fact serve in the Navy during WW2 & very briefly commanded 2 small vessels). Specifically, he never served in combat, did not win 20+ medals, & suffered no combat injuries whatsoever, consequently his claims to have “cured” himself from disabling combat injuries thru Dianetics is completely bogus. How can “the tech” be valid if it’s based on lies?
    Furthermore, the abuses that you document began under LRH. It was he, after all, who oversaw Operation Snow White, the bugging & theft of documents from gov’t. offices for which a number of top Scientologists served prison time. It was LRH who ran so afoul of gov’t. that he spent 10 years running the COS from a ship.
    I also notice there has been some recent discussion on your blog related to how & why the Catholic Church experienced its recent pedophilia scandals. It may interest your readers to know that prior to the 2d Vatican Council there were Church policies banning homosexuals from the clergy. Post-V2 these policies were unwisely revised in order to correct a decline in religious vocations. Pedophilia among the clergy has arisen almost 100% among the homosexuals who were ordained following the adoption of this revised policy. This does not excuse, of course, the actions of high Church officials in covering up the abuses.
    If you find any of my remarks to be of value, feel free to edit the remainder.

    • martyrathbun09

      Stay tuned for my next book which will fully answer all your questions. Frankly, I think they are competently answered throughout my blog posts.

    • Mr. Thorne, you are equating pedophilia with homosexuality. In truth, most pedophiles are straight men. You offer no reference to support your point. Allow me to offer one to support mine.

      “All regressed offenders, whether their victims were male or female children, were heterosexual in their adult orientation. There were no examples of regression to child victims among peer-oriented, homosexual males. The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male.” From a study published in the journal “Archives of Sexual Behavior” at http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01542377

      Most of the people who hate Scientology are woefully ignorant of what Scientology is. And most homophobes are also woefully ignorant about homosexuality. As to why homosexuals are 1.1 (which, in truth, they often are): you would be, too, if you were treated the way gay men are treated. They are suppressed, told they are perverts and beaten down for being themselves. When you are punished for exhibiting your light overtly, you exhibit it covertly. Don’t blame them for being 1.1. Homophobes made them that way. There are a few gay men out there who have managed to become spiritually empowered and rise above this. They are as magnificent and beautiful as any other being who has done the same.

      If you research it further, you will find that it is not a “lifestyle choice.” Those of us who are straight did not choose to be straight. Homosexuals also don’t choose. Many gay men start out that way because their mother was sensitized to a testosterone allergy by a previously borne son and the mother’s antibodies attack any subsequent male fetus — thus my straight first-born-son husband and his two gay younger brothers. There is much scientific study out there. You can start here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-1385230.html

  69. These points are so educational. I cannot believe how much I am learning about spirituality and ethics from ex-scientology members! It’s so ironic, it makes me giggle.

    My gut feeling senses or predicts that there is much worse going on than we may ever realize. Just mere observational logic would suggest to me that even more dangerous criminal activity is going on by Miscavige. And the fact the US govt/law doesn’t step in all that much to end this nightmare makes me suspicious too. I can only assume (albeit totally in my imagination) that Miscavige has some dark connections in high places. Murder, child rape, child trafficking, drug embezzlement would not surprise me in the least. I am not saying that is occurring at all, it just would not surprise me in the least, based on everything else I keep learning about Miscavige.

  70. Does anyone else see a few parallels between DM’s methods and Hitler’s method of taking over Germany??

  71. Hi Marty, I have been reading your blog, it’s facinating! I am not a Scientologist, I have a question for you guys, and I am wondering if you all know about this already, so the New York Post on Friday July 13th 2012 page 84 says that the COS bought last year a TV station for 42 million dollars!! It says it started moving into a huge five acre complex-the former home of LA’s public TV station on on Sunset Blvd a few weeks ago, it also bought the old the KCET studios where shows like Carl Sagans “Comos” were produced. The church goes onto say in a prepared statement that it will be a central media hub for our growing world net-work of churches and to move into the production of religious television and radio broadcasting
    It became clear that Scientology had bigger plans for TV and speculation is that the new studio will be home for a Scientology cable channel to help repair the church’s battered public image.
    Starting a cable TV channel is very expensive, since it will require the church to pay cable systems to carry it’s station. Oprah Winfrey, who quit daytime last year to start a cable channel, has said she had no idea how hard it would be to get it off the ground.
    So maybe this has been DM plan for world domination(in his own egotistical mind of course), I guess he is going to put himself on TV to try and get more followers to worship him. It shows where some of the poor followers money is going. So what do you all think about this?

    • Amy, this is an excellent observation. I thought about the exact same thing when I learned of this news: “What the hell are they going to be broadcasting?” The crux of Scientology is studying the works of L. Ron Hubbard, doing practical exercises with a twin or studying and delivering auditing procedures. In other words, what is asked of the Church of Scientology is the study, training, and delivery of Dianetics and Scientology. The current church is morphing into another form of “business” entirely to a point where calling it a church and a Church OF Scientology is becoming a misnomer.

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  73. I’ve been reading and learning so much since the news of Tom and Katie, my facebook status is Go Katie Go! I went to the bookstore today looking for some of the books, like yours Marty, and was shocked that they aren’t there. No worries, I’ve found them on Amazon, Bless you Marty and Tory, Anonymus, Wise Bearded Man, Jason, Paul H. and everyone getting the word out, for your tireless devotion the cause; I cannot believe I’ve been oblivious to this tragic reality for too long, on the other hand I’m sort of grateful too that COS hasn’t bumped up into me personally, so far as I know no family or close friends have been injured as a result of this “church”. I’m stunned that these things can go on in America; your patience and ability to continue communicating is amazing. I’m confident, even as a person who has never been violent in my life, that after 199 days of being hounded by “squirrel busters” at my own home I would have “BLOWN” for real
    if you know what I mean. I pray for you all for peace and that you can keep on keepin on. Thank you for the enlightenment, it’s not good to be uninformed just because something hasn’t touched you or yours personally, and who knows maybe I’ll be a friend with good information should I meet someone who needs it.

  74. Truly Nothing 08

    July 20th 2009 to July 22nd 2012 {31 Factors} For over 3 years…
    We have been pondering the problems that we face as a consequence of not being able to get our “Philosophical Religion” back to battery.
    I was told by an old Class VIII who in the Apollo sailing days asked Ron privately about the future of Scientology. Specifically in the hands of the Sea Org members when you are gone. Ron’s reply as I recall it ” Scientology is an experiment, a life form that I hope makes it, I’ve always done all I could for it to survive to serve mankind.”
    The question is who owns it now, and will they maintain it for future generations? Are we even permitted to own and use it now or is it’s use restricted to bonded and licensed slaves? What ever happened to our Freedom of Religion? Is it still Our Religion or DM’s Golden Cow? If it still exists and we can own it, let us fix it. Don’t wait for it to sink or die because of a bad captain. Mutiny now !!! Rogues, Pirates and Thieves don’t make good galley slaves!!! The battle cry rages on to Victory… or _____ .

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  78. wow…I would love to speak with you.

  79. Here is a fact-or is it? Its a game, a game we .you and I, ageed to play and this is the fourth and last time around the mobius strip. Its correct to be exterior viewpoint pan determined but don’t be fooled, get you own brige crossed. Hell you can do it for next to nothing, standardly, “his” correct way, its all out their waiting for you.

  80. Hey guys: Another comment that I forgot to mention in my previous comment above. If someone (and I do mean anyone) out of the church of Scientology (and in the freezone) continues to complain and nag against the church there is something wrong. I’ve been around Scientologist in the Free Zone or as an independent Scientologist and I here them complain, denounce and complain even more. Over and over again. Usually (and this is also a part of Scientology tech) if one complains (or natters) as they do then they did something that has not been found out. So my advice for those who are out of the church but now in the Free Zone, Stop complaining. You could not make it in the church for whatever reason. There are many reasons why one leaves. The point is now that you are out and have re-connected with others who are out do your best to move forward anyway possible – even if is helping a sick person with a Touch Assist or a drunk with a locational.


  81. Dear Marty:

    I sent two or three communications over today but started them with ‘Hey guys.’ Sorry. I thought this was a shared site for all to express their viewpoint(s). Anyway hope you respond to at least one of them.

    Guy Vogel

  82. Marty, hello.

    First off, very interesting reads, here and others as you have linked. I will need to take more time to look through them. I will.

    Currently, I am on staff in a Class V Ideal Scientology Organization – perhaps I will inform you of which at another time. I see no use in opening myself up to attacks from the onset, as I am not here to attack or be attacked, only for data.

    I have been either on staff, or as a Scientologist in good standing, since mid-1994. During this time, I have studied and gained my own understanding of LRH’s writings and the tenets of Scientology. The truth be told, I have found them to fill holes in past studies of other philosophies, and have experienced auditing to the degree that I understand the spiritual power that I, we, are and our innate ability at fixing what ails us.

    This is not to say that I walk blindly within all things Scientology, or rather I would state it as I know what is real for me, as it is what I have observed to be real for me. I have not ever been one to accept a prescribed viewpoint for what I may or may not choose to believe. And my beliefs have always been through first hand study of whatever subjects I chose. This has not made me too well liked among my seniors; as I tend to ask for policy references, written orders, and the like when told to do things in which I personally have no basis of understanding in policy.

    From all of my understandings garnered from the writings and codes of Scientology, I truly believe that Ron intended for everyone to question whatever comes across their path, as to validity and usefulness, and certainly for me to apply my own self-determinism in all things. On this point, I have never been “fired from cannons” or been subjected to any off policy actions. I have, as needed, put seniors and juniors alike onto a more correct understanding of the policy, to which everyone in Scientology applies to no matter their position.

    I am not doubtful that all on this planet have times of not doing exactly the correct thing; no matter who or where they are and that liberties are taken throughout society due to hierarchy or status, or simply by personal preference at the time. I am in no way condoning that type of action by anyone, nor being a proponent for it. I am just stating that I have observed it.

    Throughout my tenure in Scientology, I have met only a few of those at the upper echelon, some from Int, Gold, RTC, and also a few of the Celebs. Without fail, all of the “working” Scientologists that I have had the pleasure of meeting have been levelheaded, compassionate, and sincere. By “working”, I mean those that actively, through their hands-on application, do the things that Ron said would help society.

    Even though I question seniors, research policy, apply ethics (to others and myself), I have not experienced any heavy ethics actions, nor been exposed to any heavy-handed tactics to date. I have worked long hours, taken my staff allowance, and held my post (worn my hat) to the best of my ability and understanding of policy.

    I do see the habit amongst my fellow staff members of blindly following orders and directives without question, which I feel is against some of the most senior of Scientology’s tenets. As well, I do not see as ruthless an application of KSW 1 when it comes to Scientology’s application in general. But mostly it’s the unquestioning abiding without proper research and application that I find disheartening. I can understand it, but still it’s disheartening.

    I do not necessarily think that I have a particular question at this time, but I did feel that I could comment on your blog. I’m glad that it is open to all comers. As I said earlier, I will continue to research your links and read more of your blogs.

    Thanks for letting me have a voice.

    Nom de Plume

  83. Hi Marty, very nice to see your blog on here! I actually have gotten a chance to see some of your interviews on TV. Always wondered what you have been up to since leaving the church.
    I wanted to ask, what are your views with regards to Psychiatry? Please forgive me if you have already shared your thoughts on this blog, as today is the first time I stumbled upon your site. :)

  84. Whew! and I thought I was the only one. Ex class 1V co-audit. Basics, completion, and out. After 20 years of hoping.

  85. I remember an event in 2011 in germany where the new stats and SH-size orgs were presented.
    One thing – amongst others – made me (at least) wonder: It was said, that the architects thought, that to restaurate/renovate/establish each square meter of such ideal-orgs would cost about 400 $. But it only cost 100 (or was it 200?) $.
    Great applause!!!
    But: If 400 $ is an realistical amount how it is possible to install a product of the same quality with only the half or one out of four?
    Of course that depends on buying sources and wages.
    But what about fair exchange?
    And the four levels of exchange?
    Oh guys, I have been so angry!!

  86. Hello! This post couldn’t be written any better!
    Reading through this post reminds me of my good old room mate!

    He always kept talking about this. I will forward this post to him.
    Pretty sure he will have a good read. Thank you for sharing!

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  88. It`s quite interessting, what`s going on on upper levels in scientology and it`s really locks like, cob is the problem of course.
    a question, which is maybe not discused; what will happens, if cob isn`t there!?
    if the whole upper management for control does not exist anymore, what will happen, if cob also is not there?
    at this moment it looks like, that c of s staffs are unter supression and control but does this include the knowingness about thinks going wrong?
    and if c o b is not there, what will with the rights on all the lrh-things like books, policys, bulltins?
    will the rights went over to government???
    and if so, will the government will stoped then any distribution, wheter old (right) or squirreld (new/cob) materials??
    just a few questions from germany. i

  89. I post a postulate that miscavice will be timmed out and his entheta will be stopped irivocabalie and defininate so solo me eric p we will order him out count me as a soro solo audit i am in arclid court cw121sl congleton freewind be with you jenie bogvard

  90. Marty if I’m going over old territory I apologize but isn’t it a probability that
    it was DM that fed misinformation to the IRS and others to keep Ron
    locked up in his caravan for the last years of his life, while squandering his resources in pursuit of his personal agenda

  91. Well other than my comment being deleted I’m still somewhat interested in dianetics and an auditing session.. Do you still offer these sessions?

  92. Niklas Hugosson in sweden

    hello im a christian who is very intrested in what you been out for
    In sweden it have been mutch talking aboute OT3 and the church
    and . Im wondering if you could contact me and give me adwise in
    my investigation for my on .

  93. I am a public at an ideal org and have traveled 3.5 hours to arrive for services.
    It is never busy with lots of public on weekdays. A few pcs and a few students on lines. Weekends are busier as is the case with most orgs.
    I used to watch more TV than I do now but never saw commercials in big quantities as was promised.
    I remember Debbie Cook as CO @ Flag.
    Was shocked when heard she was declared.
    I always felt the events were big PR stunts as I never saw my local org prosper in last 10 years. It has contracted. It could not deliver the service my wife and I needed, thus the traveling.
    It was much bigger 20 yrs ago.
    The new accs and new this and that are just the same materials repackaged and rereleased as new . The basics were upgraded but importan bridget chapters were pulled out.
    All in all I get the same feeling about COB as I did Obama. Slick but covert. The staff I deal with at the org all are good beings.
    I have a friend on ship who I speak with regularly who sees new OT8s having huge huge wins finishing it. So I know Miscarriage is dirty but I dont see how he has screwed up the bridge. I have other sources of data on progress on bridge cycles and they are on the front lines of delivery and dont hear these things you say. Miscarriage (just a funny) is the bad apple it looks like.
    The IRS thing about them owning CRST may have some credibility as well. Not sure.

  94. You are public on lines? Ha. This is all spoof and parody, right? If their security check auditing is so terrible that they let you through to services, you will will find no gain. If their security checks are even somewhat sufficient, they will toss you out on your ear. Lucky you.

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